That basically i would call it "migration" from an old system to the
new system.
Yes ... you can do that ... also you can make a dirty project that
would use 2 dbs:

1 for old data
1 for the new data ...
2 db connections should do the trick


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Alexandre Salomé
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>   Suppose you have an old "dirty" table named "news_website" :
> ID  |   NAME    |    TAGS      |    CATEGORY1   |      CATEGORY2    |
> CATEGORY3
> Define it in Doctrine with an "old" prefix :
>
> oldNewsWebsite:
>   columns:
>     id:        { type: integer(4), primary: true }
>     name:      { type: varchar(64) }
>     tags:      { type: varchar(255) }
>     category1: { type: string(32) }
>     category2: { ... }
>     category3: { type: string(32) }
>
> Do not try to make some "clean" model, define it as it is.
> Now, in your oldNewsWebsite class, define for example a method :
> getCleanNews.
> This method must returns an object with the new schema definition :
>
> $news = new News();
> $topic = $this->getTable()->getCleanTopic(); // Returns the news topic named
> "Website"
> $news->setTopic($topic);
> $tags = explode(", ", $this->getTags());
> foreach ($tags as $tagName)
> {
>   Doctrine::getTable('oldTag')->getCleanTag($tagName);
> }
> if ($category1 = $this->getCleanCategory1())
> {
>   $news->addCategory($category1);
> }
> // and so on...
> return $news;
>
> And after, the idea is to retrieve old objects one by one, extract the clean
> objects and save them.
> The aim is to remove this "old" schema after the transition is complete.
> Do you understand the idea ?
> Alexandre
>
>   Feel free to put schema definition in a "oldPlugin", to isolate it and
> remove it when not needed anymore.
>
> 2009/12/14 Alexandru-Emil Lupu <[email protected]>
>>
>> Well... do your stuff using symfony ... and pretend that you still
>> work on that application ... and take some days off :)
>> To be ready for the moment when they will say "Hey, we have a bug
>> there..." (of course in the non sf version)... then you refactorize
>> that area as well ...
>> I have manage convince my boss that is better to that with symfony,
>> because is much more maintainable and extensibile ...
>> if they cannot afford a cool / secure / organized application ... then
>> i might recommend you something (heard from others ): "Change your
>> job, or change your job." or, of course the client ...
>> Alecs
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Campezzi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi Alecs, thanks for your replies! My initial idea was to upgrade
>> > their entire plataform to run on symfony, but they didn't approve that
>> > idea for two reasons: one, it would go over their budget... and two,
>> > they had several random screens scattered all over the server that
>> > were used by different team members on random occasions... They didn't
>> > even know the full range of capabilities of their system because of
>> > that LOL :)
>> >
>> > I think I'll end up going with pure php, or maybe disabling the ORM
>> > entirely and doing all database interactions by hand... ugh! :(
>> >
>> > Unless, of course, someone else has a magical solution ;)
>> >
>> > Thanks again and best regards,
>> >
>> > Thiago Campezzi
>> > [email protected]
>> >
>> > On 14 dez, 16:57, Alexandru-Emil Lupu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Sorry for my previous mail.
>> >> i was on the move and i just remembered "Symfony 1.2" ... instead of
>> >> "symfony (1.4,
>> >> doctrine 1.2)"
>> >>
>> >> About your initial qustestion: try implement the whole system as a
>> >> symfony platform. That will allow you to put some order in your
>> >> code...
>> >> Those automatizations like sending notifications mails could resume to
>> >> 2 symfony commands run from a cron job.
>> >>
>> >> symfony yourapp:build-notifications
>> >> symfony project:send-emails
>> >>
>> >> Also, the interface could be easily built be using the crud.
>> >>
>> >> Alecs
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Alexandru-Emil Lupu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > How complex is the "old" application? Using symfony, it might be play
>> >> > in the
>> >> > park to reorganize your old code, and make your necesarilly
>> >> > adjustments on
>> >> > the schema as you need, or you consider proper.
>> >> > Btw... do yourself a favor and code it with 1.4 . I will tell you why
>> >> > in 30
>> >> > mins
>> >> > Alecs
>> >>
>> >> > sent via htc magic
>> >>
>> >> > On Dec 14, 2009 8:24 PM, "Campezzi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello everyone, I'm starting a new project and I'd like some input
>> >> > from the community as to what is the best way to approach this
>> >> > implementation. Here it goes:
>> >>
>> >> > The project goal is to automate the client's invoice generation and
>> >> > management (email notifications,etc). The client already has a custom
>> >> > system in place (pure php + mysql) that includes a database of
>> >> > clients
>> >> > and projects and also some basic accounting screens. This new project
>> >> > should interact with these systems that are already in place (i.e.
>> >> > getting client e-mail addresses from the database to send invoices,
>> >> > creating accounting entries when invoices are paid, etc.)
>> >>
>> >> > As you can expect, their systems are currently a mess of unmanageable
>> >> > code, and I wanted to create the invoicing system using symfony (1.4,
>> >> > doctrine 1.2). Here's where your input is appreciated: how should I
>> >> > go
>> >> > about integrating the new sf-based project with the old database
>> >> > where
>> >> > necessary?
>> >>
>> >> > So far, my only idea is to duplicate the old database layout in my
>> >> > schema.yml file but I'd like to avoid that since the current db is
>> >> > really, really messy...
>> >>
>> >> > Any ideas?
>> >>
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