Hey,

If your web app is going to have some pretty serious usage you might consider 
get rid of apache (for the long polling part specifically) and take a look to 
nginx+http_push_module :-)

On 09/02/2011, at 22:32, Gareth McCumskey <gmccums...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I figured it was something server related either session (which we determined 
> was the case) or the actual web server configuration (as was the case) as any 
> framework that doesn't allow concurrent requests would be essentially 
> useless. Imagine developing an application only one user at a time could use 
> >.<
> 
> On 09/02/2011 23:23, Gabriele Genta wrote:
>> 
>> I finally pointed out the problem, and it has nothing to do with symfony, 
>> nor the server configuration. The problem was on the client side of the 
>> application: I'm developing it with Sproutcore, and using their development 
>> server (sc-server) to test it; unfortunately, sc-server does not support 
>> concurrent requests. So I'll have to fall back to a good old standard 
>> polling mechanism until they fix the             issue (and hoping that they 
>> would).
>> Thanks Gareth for your help, really appreciate it. By the way, this gave me 
>> a good knowledge of session file locking problems and solutions, which could 
>> be handy in future :)
>> 
>> Gabriele
>> On mercoledì 9 febbraio 2011 at 19.35, Gareth McCumskey wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, in that case, have you verified that your web server is configured 
>>> correctly? Is it perhaps set to only allow one process or connection at a 
>>> time which would cause your queuing problem? Typically Apache should be 
>>> able to handle very many child processes but often this setting can 
>>> mistakenly be altered thinking its a load saving technique.
>>> 
>>> On 09/02/2011 15:46, Gabriele Genta wrote: 
>>> Ok then, following your advice I found a more canonical way of handling the 
>>> problem without forcing the framework. To do so I configured symfony so 
>>> that a session is not started automatically and I've also told it to use 
>>> the ArraySessionStorage in place of the native                 one. As a 
>>> result, now the application never calls the php functions for session 
>>> handling (session_*), and no session file/record is created at all when the 
>>> backend is invoked.
>>> Nevertheless the problem is still occuring, so at this stage I think it 
>>> isn't related to session locks at all.
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Gabriele
>>> On mercoledì 9 febbraio 2011 at 14.13, Gareth McCumskey wrote:
>>> With symfony 1 you cannot use session_write_close reliably. There is a 
>>> specific symfony function you call on the sfUser object to actualy have it 
>>> close properly ;) Thats why I linked my blog post to help with that info.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Gabriele Genta <gabriele.ge...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Thanks Garreth for your response. As I                     pointed out in 
>>> my original post, though, I already tried the fixes regarding session files 
>>> locking by calling session_write_close() and also by discarding session 
>>> saving at all, by doing something like this: 
>>> 
>>> function foo() {}
>>> session_set_save_handler("foo", "foo", "foo", "foo", "foo", "foo");
>>> 
>>> Anyway, none of them worked, there's still something preventing the 
>>> requests from running.
>>> Thanks anyway,
>>> 
>>> Gabriele
>>> 
>>> On mercoledì 9 febbraio 2011 at 12.10, Gareth McCumskey wrote:
>>> The problem is session write locking. We had the same issue in symfony 1. I 
>>> don't know how to do this for symfony 2 but I wrote a blog post to deal 
>>> with it in symfony 1. Perhaps you can just convert this for use with 
>>> symfony 2:
>>> 
>>> http://garethmccumskey.blogspot.com/2009/10/php-session-write-locking-and-how-to.html
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Gabriele Genta <gabriele.ge...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hello, 
>>> I'm trying to implement long polling in a Synfony 2 project to shorten 
>>> response times in a "real-time" application I'm making. Essentially I have 
>>> an ajax front end that requests data to the symfony-driven backend through 
>>> XHR. My problem arises when I try to send a second request to the backend 
>>> while a first one is on                         hang for long polling; the 
>>> second request just get queued after the first, and doesn't get processed 
>>> until the first returns.
>>> I've googled a bit about the problem and found out that it could depend on 
>>> session files being locked (see here:                         
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1430883/simultaneous-requests-to-php-script)
>>>  during requests, but getting rid of session files didn't help (my backend 
>>> is completely stateless, so it doesn't need sessions at all actually).
>>> Has anyone come across this problems before? I think the problem might have 
>>> to do with symfony and caching (setting locks on cache files during 
>>> requests, maybe?), but I don't know enough of the guts of symfony itself to 
>>> find a solution or a workaround..
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>> 
>>> Gabriele Genta 
>>> 
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