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Labels: Type-Defect Priority-Medium Assumptions NonCommutative

New issue 3714 by [email protected]: as_real_imag (and friends) for noncommutatives
http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=3714

See the discussion at https://github.com/sympy/sympy/pull/1923. To quote:

Me: "If as_real_imag and friends never makes sense for non-commutative objects, it should fail in Expr.as_real_imag."

Sergey: "I'm not sure if this never makes sense. Why not? E.g. for complex matrices."

Me: "This requires some thought. Abuses of terms like "real" lead to inconsistencies in the assumptions. For example, if re() works for matrices, and re(A).is_real is always True, then the "real" assumption doesn't really mean element of the real numbers. But then we can't assert real**2 == nonnegative."

(by the way, "and friends" means expand_complex(), expand(complex=True), re(), and im(), which all call as_real_imag() internally)

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