On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Lossanaght wrote:

> Thanks for taking a look at my post, but unless I have missed
> something very obvious y should be quadratic, you seem to have lost
> some astrices when you copied the equation.
> The values given were constructed in Geogebra and the answer should be
> x = 4.4, y = 2.22 which I checked manually so I'm pretty sure it's
> correct.
> 
> Also, I suppose I should have stated the whole of my thoughts on this
> as well. I'm actually ok with the last solution in my code for the 2D
> case but I would like to solve the intersection of
> hyperboloids of two sheets for which the last solution method doesn't
> seem to apply very well. To give a little more background the inputs
> to the method are times of arrival of a wave such as sound at
> synchronized receivers ( trilateration / multilateration ) which will
> be determined by correlation and peak detection. I've been playing
> with some image alignment code and I think  I can get that working
> without too much fuss.
> The equations I would eventually like to solve are :
> 
>    eq1 = y**2/(e**2 - a) + z**2/(e**2 - a) - (x + e)**2/a + 1
>    eq2 = x**2/(e**2 - b) + z**2/(e**2 - b) - (y - e)**2/b + 1
>    eq3 = y**2/(e**2 - c) + z**2/(e**2 - c) - (x - e)**2/c + 1
>    eq4 = ((x - e)/r2 + (y - e)/r2)**2/(2*e**2 - d) + z**2/(2*e**2 -
> d) - (-(x - e)/r2 + (y - e)/r2)**2/d + 1
>    # for four receivers there would be a fifth difference of the form
> of eq5 but  I was to lazy to derive it, probably just toggles a couple
> term signs anyway.
> 
>    s = solve([eq1, eq2, eq3, eq4], [x, y,z])

I plugged this into Maple to see what it would give me, and it returned an 
empty solution (i.e., []), which either means that the equations are 
inconsistent, or even Maple cannot solve them.  

Aaron Meurer

> 
> Now I know I can solve eq1 and eq3 for the value(s) of x, I still am
> working on applying some kind  of insight to the rest  of these to get
> y and z in a timely fashion.
> 
> I had not seen the  as_numer_denom method in the docs yet, I'll see
> what fun can be had with that. I always forget about the _  for recent
> results in python thanks for the reminder.
> 
> Indeed CAS certainly lack in intuition, even if I give solve
>    eqs1 = eq1/eq1.coeff(y**2)
>    eqs3 = eq3/eq3.coeff(y**2)
> 
>    xs = solve([eqs1, eqs3], x)
> 
> Which would be obvious for a human it can't solve it unless I give it
> the first step.
> 
>    xs = solve(eqs1 - eqs3, x)
> 
> It appears after playing around a bit the form it gets  stuck on is:
> 
>    9.81136146495961 + 0.45513230707436*z**2 - 18.9262373938263*(1.5 -
> y)**2
> 
> As you had indicated it doesn't seem to have a rule for the root of a
> sum, nice to see that you already have that as a planned feature :)
> As an aside I really like that you always have the pure python
> implementation available, wish scipy would've done that too.
> So I'll break it don't into some more digestible bits for Sympy,
> thanks again.
> 
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