On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Tom Bachmann <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On 25.08.2012 10:40, Chris Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We have that, but I think it uses the unconventional R to L rather
>>>> than L to R convention:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> p=Permutation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> p([[1,2],[0],[3]])*p([[2,3],[0],[1]]
>>>>
>>>> ... )
>>>> Permutation([0, 2, 3, 1])
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _.cyclic_form
>>>>
>>>> [[1, 2, 3], [0]]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_notation says that the answer of
>>>> the above should be (132) not (123) (which is what SymPy gives when
>>>> the order of multiplication is reversed).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, that is very bad I think. If it doesn't follow standard
>>> conventions and notations,
>>> people will not use it.
>>
>>
>> I've got this fixed but there are lots of failures in other areas of
>> combinatorics so i might as well close this for now. I (as you)
>> consider this a show stopper.
>>
>
> Huh? At least in my courses, cycles where just a short-hand notation for
> permutations, and where composed in precisely the way this code does. I know
> there are arguments for composing on the right, but I don't think this is
> universally done (or even by a majority). I don't know about specialised
> fields, though (e.g. there is a famous crystallography book composing on the
> right, but even in its field it is an exception, not the rule).


It's as it was, using L to R but I added a reverse option so one can
go R to L if desired.

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