On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are some issues with this, which would need to be resolved if we
> were to do it:
>
> - First off, we need to determine if this is actually allowed under
> the rules of the program.  I know that other organizations, such as
> the Python Software Foundation, act as umbrella organizations, but
> there may be some caveats that we should be sure of.
>
> - Second, there would obviously need to be full support from the
> secondary community.
>
> - Third, we need mentoring support. I would say that we'd need at
> least one mentor who is a SymPy developer and one mentor who is a
> developer of the secondary organization (they may end up benig the
> same person, if someone works in both places).
>
> - Finally, I we would need to decide, as a community, if we want to do
> it.  I personally would want to evaluate this on a per-idea basis, so
> I can't say if I would support it or not without more specifics. I am
> not categorically opposed to the idea at any rate.  My opinion isn't
> the end all, though.  So let's see how others feel too.
>
> - And of course, we would need an actual student who is interested in
> doing this.
>
> One thing to consider here is that in the two years that we are
> limited in the number of slots that Google gives us.  It might be more
> worthwhile to pursue such an idea as a project under the PSF, who
> usually gets lots of slots, and uses most of them for umbrella
> projects.  Of course, we could also just ask the students to apply to
> both, and we could apply the project to whatever organization ends up
> with the slots (this is how things worked back when SymPy just
> participated under the umbrella of other organizations; for example, I
> submitted my proposals to PSF and PSU when I was a student, and I was
> accepted under whichever organization had the slots for me).
>
> I definitely agree that more projects using SymPy as a dependency is a
> good thing for SymPy.  Not only does it indirectly give us more users,
> but it allows us to see concrete ways that our code is being used
> (assuming the library is open source), and forces us to make our code
> more amenable to be used as an API (e.g., make classes friendly to be
> subclassed, which they currently aren't, see issue 3652).  This
> doesn't just apply to statistics, though that's a great example.

I agree with everything you said Aaron. It would be good, but there are
the caveats you mentioned.

Ondrej

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