On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM, someone <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We can already solve that one using LambertW (but we need to implement
>> all the branches,
>> https://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=4006).
>
> Oh, that was just an example. In this case on can
> simplify the TransRootOf object.
>
>
>> Can these work with trig functions (via equivalence from complex
>> exponentials)?
>
> Without going to the details, yes. But it depends on
> the arguments, things with infinitely many oscillations
> will cause heavy difficulties. In fact the definition
> of "tame expression" is
>
>   "An elementary expression is tame if the arguments
>   of its trigonometric subexpressions are bounded."
>
> See def 1.5 and example 1.6 from "Real Root Isolation
> for Tame Elementary Functions" for the details.
>
>
>> A more classic example of a root that can't be
>> expressed in closed-form is cos(x) = x.
>
> Except if we define another special function
> for that ;-) It depends all the time on what
> exactly "closed form" means.

The real solution to this is called the Dottie Number
(http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DottieNumber.html), but it's not a
heavily used constant. So I don't know if it makes sense to add it.

Aaron Meurer

>
> The integral of exp(-x**2) can be done in closed
> form but the form is not elementary as you know.
>
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