There is a flag to the printer order='none', which you can use for
printers like pprint() or sstr(), which can speed up the printing of
very large expressions.

Aaron Meurer

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jason Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is typical behavior. Solving a 9 x 9 linear system will result in long
> expressions. If you want to print them it will take time to parse the tree
> because the expression is huge. Also, running the simplication routines on
> very large expressions will also take a long time and may never even finish
> depending on your computer's specs, the algorithm, etc.
>
>
> Jason
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> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:42 AM, gundamlh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> I use Sympy to compute the solution of an inverse problem (Ax = b)
>> symbolically, where A is a 9-by-9 symbolic matrix. The computation is quite
>> fast, however the out-printing of the solution ''x'' vector is very slow,
>> even the first entry x[0] takes longer than 2 minutes. And the
>> sympy.ratsimp(x[0]) is also very slow.. I am confused...
>>
>> Hope for your kind response. Thanks in advance!
>> Hong
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 2012年3月4日星期日UTC+1下午9时49分06秒,Aaron Meurer写道:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Vinzenz Bargsten <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Am 28.02.2012 06:41, schrieb Ondřej Čertík:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Vinzenz,
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Vinzenz Bargsten<[email protected]>
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >> [...]
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you very much. I think I get the point, but I will need some
>>> >>> time
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> implement it.
>>> >>> If this is working, I can finally get rid of Mathematica and the
>>> >>> complete
>>> >>> modeling procedure as well as the required model transformations
>>> >>> for a 7-axes robot (Kuka LWR) are carried out by sympy.
>>> >>
>>> >> That'd be really cool. Yes, the trigonometric simplification is pretty
>>> >> hard.
>>> >> Besides that, how is SymPy doing otherwise in terms of speed compared
>>> >> to Mathematica for your problem?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Ondrej
>>> >
>>> > Hi Ondrej,
>>> >
>>> > your question is not easy to answer. It depends on the actual task and
>>> > how
>>> > you implement it / the algorithm. The simplification problem is an
>>> > example:
>>> > Using the expand()-replace()-solution is probably slower compared to
>>> > Mathematica's Simplify[], but using the monomial-based solution may be
>>> > faster.
>>> > On average, I would say sympy is at least as fast as Mathematica for my
>>> > application.
>>>
>>> Well, in general, you should be able to just call simplify() (or
>>> trigsimp()), and it should just work.  So simplification (especially
>>> trig simplification) is one area where we can definitely use
>>> improvement.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > The advantages of sympy in my eyes compared to Mathematica are that
>>> > sympy is
>>> > deterministic and you get error messages and the messages point to the
>>> > problem.
>>>
>>> This is the first time I've heard this particular reason for SymPy
>>> being better.  How is Mathematica non-deterministic?  I've never used
>>> it, except for WolframAlpha, because, as you noted, it's not free, and
>>> I don't own a copy.
>>>
>>> I suppose the better error messages are a result of Python including
>>> the traceback?
>>>
>>> > Besides the math functions (in many cases superior or unique)
>>>
>>> Cool.  What functions are unique?  I only know of one that I'm pretty
>>> sure is unique (or at least I couldn't find it in their docs), but
>>> it's part of the polys module.  I guess maybe the code generation
>>> stuff?
>>>
>>> > it
>>> > has many convenient functions (such as the printing functions to
>>> > generate
>>> > c-code of your expressions) and one can use all other python functions.
>>> > --
>>> > and sympy is free ;)
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Vinzenz
>>>
>>> Aaron Meurer
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