On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Joachim Durchholz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Am 02.11.2014 um 23:28 schrieb Aaron Meurer:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Joachim Durchholz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 02.11.2014 um 20:05 schrieb Aaron Meurer:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your browser isn't rendering the MathJax. Which browser are you using?
>>>> Can you try a different one? Also try clearing the cache. And if that
>>>> doesn't work, open the web inspector and see if there are any console
>>>> logs from the Javascript.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have Javascript disabled, so I guess that's the reason.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if the site didn't fall back to that all-backslashes
>>> representation for non-JS visitors.
>>
>>
>> You can't really expect to browse the modern web without Javascript.
>
>
> Sorry, you can. I do it every day.
>
>> I
>>
>> think showing the raw latex is fine.
>
>
> Is
>   \(a\)
> raw latex?
>
>> It's far more accessible than
>>
>> images, and it is readable.
>
>
> Do you consider this:
>
>   \[\begin{split}\sum_{m \leq i < n} f(i)\end{split}\]
>
> readable?
>
> I can't make heads nor tails of it.
>
>> I really don't know what you would expect
>>
>> to happen here.
>
>
> It would be fine if we could simply have the HTML+CSS that MathJax
> generates.

Do you know how to make mathjax pre-generate just html + css, so that
we can put the generated html+css into our docs? I am not sure that it
allows that. There is another project, called KaTeX:

http://khan.github.io/KaTeX/

Which allows that, but it doesn't yet parse all the math, but they are
quickly fixing all the issues, e.g. see this one I reported:

https://github.com/Khan/KaTeX/issues/74

So maybe we could use it.

Ondrej



>
>> Literally any kind of nice thing that could happen
>>
>> requires Javascript.
>
>
> That's a gross exaggeration.
> Nicely formatted math is possible, even in HTML+CSS - MathJax demonstrates
> it, the final result after it did its work is indeed just HTML.
>
>> Also note that we didn't write this code. We're
>>
>> just using MathJax, so if you have any suggestions on how they could
>> improve their usability for your situation you should make a feature
>> request to them.
>
>
> I would be unable to even word such a requests, because my knowledge about
> how these web pages are built is practically nonexistent.
>
> AFAICT MathJax scans the page for <span class="math">, parses the Latex it
> finds, and replaces the contents of the <span> with whatever output format
> is desired.
> That's essentially broken by design, since you can't have a better format
> than Latex as a fallback display. Unless MathJax allows a better input
> format by itself.
>
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