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On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 5:01:32 PM UTC, Aaron Meurer wrote:
>
> The symbols in your example will need to be set as symbols('a b', 
> commutative=False). Otherwise b*a*b*a will be the same as a**2*b**2. 
>
> Aaron Meurer 
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Jennifer White <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > Thanks, I have updated both now. Hopefully this is an improvement 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 5:51:23 PM UTC, Aaron Meurer wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I would suggest putting in more details about the actual 
> >> implementation. A suggestion would be to show a "fake" python session 
> >> showing the inputs and outputs of some of the functions you would 
> >> implement. See 
> >> 
> https://asmeurersympy.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/advice-for-future-prospective-gsoc-students/
>  
> >> (number 4) for an example of what I mean. 
> >> 
> >> Aaron Meurer 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Jennifer White <[email protected]> 
>
> >> wrote: 
> >> > For anyone who may be interested in this, I have now put submitted my 
> >> > proposal on Melange and have also put the most relevant parts on the 
> >> > SymPy 
> >> > Wiki. I would very much appreciate any comments or suggestions. I 
> can't 
> >> > seem 
> >> > to find the suggested mentor for this project so any suggestions or 
> >> > improvements are very welcome 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 3:54:56 PM UTC, Aaron Meurer wrote: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Those both sound like good ideas. I would look into what the 
> >> >> prerequisites for each are so you can see what is already 
> implemented 
> >> >> and what needs to be implemented. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Aaron Meurer 
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Jennifer White <
> [email protected]> 
> >> >> wrote: 
> >> >> > Thanks for your response. 
> >> >> > The two areas that I had particular interest in were representing 
> >> >> > groups 
> >> >> > symbolically as you mentioned, and also potentially looking into 
> >> >> > generating 
> >> >> > Galois Groups. Do you think these would be good areas to start 
> with? 
> >> >> > Obviously there is a huge amount that could be done in this area 
> and 
> >> >> > I 
> >> >> > don't 
> >> >> > want to be unrealistically ambitious! 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 5:03:16 PM UTC, Aaron Meurer wrote: 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Looking at what SymPy can currently do and what GAP can do are 
> both 
> >> >> >> good places to start. 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> I personally would like to see SymPy be able to represent groups 
> in 
> >> >> >> ways other than just as permutation groups, e.g., symbolically 
> from 
> >> >> >> generators. This also opens up the possibility to have some parts 
> of 
> >> >> >> the module that work with infinite groups. 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Group theory is huge, and you could work on it for 20 summers and 
> >> >> >> still have things to implement, so I would try to find some 
> specific 
> >> >> >> thing that SymPy cannot do but other systems like GAP or Sage 
> can, 
> >> >> >> and 
> >> >> >> make a project out of that. 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Aaron Meurer 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Jennifer White 
> >> >> >> <[email protected]> 
> >> >> >> wrote: 
> >> >> >> > Hi, 
> >> >> >> > I'm Jennifer, I'm a 3rd year Maths/Physics student at the 
> >> >> >> > University 
> >> >> >> > of 
> >> >> >> > Warwick UK. Last summer I interned at Google and now I'm 
> looking 
> >> >> >> > to 
> >> >> >> > get 
> >> >> >> > involved in some Open Source work and potentially GSoC. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > SymPy caught my eye, and particular the suggestion of 
> implementing 
> >> >> >> > a 
> >> >> >> > Group 
> >> >> >> > Theory module, because Algebra and Groups are my specialist 
> areas 
> >> >> >> > in 
> >> >> >> > my 
> >> >> >> > degree and I thoroughly enjoy working with Python so I'm very 
> >> >> >> > interested 
> >> >> >> > in 
> >> >> >> > formulating a proposal for this. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I am new to Open Source work and using Git but I am very 
> >> >> >> > enthusiastic 
> >> >> >> > about 
> >> >> >> > learning new things and I was wondering where would be a good 
> >> >> >> > place 
> >> >> >> > to 
> >> >> >> > start? 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I've taken modules in various aspects of Groups (most recently 
> >> >> >> > looking 
> >> >> >> > at 
> >> >> >> > Representation and Character Theory) so I do have a fairly good 
> >> >> >> > understanding of the underpinning theory here. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I plan to thoroughly investigate SymPy's existing capabilities 
> >> >> >> > with 
> >> >> >> > regards 
> >> >> >> > to groups as PermutationGroups and some special groups (like 
> >> >> >> > Dihedral, 
> >> >> >> > Cyclic etc) are already implemented. I'm also going to have a 
> look 
> >> >> >> > at 
> >> >> >> > what 
> >> >> >> > some existing systems like GAP can do and think about what the 
> >> >> >> > most 
> >> >> >> > fundamental functionalities that I need to get implemented are. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Any advice or guidance is welcome 
> >> >> >> > 
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