There is a lot of discussion about this in these issues https://github.com/sympy/sympy/issues/5031 https://github.com/sympy/sympy/issues/4986 https://github.com/sympy/sympy/issues/14741
Aaron Meurer On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 7:34 AM <schweg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Sympy Developers and Interested People! > > First off, Thank you very much for your great effort and success - Sympy is > an absolutely awesome piece of software! > I am using it for the better of 2 years now and did some fun stuff, but I > still haven't really decided on a coherent way of writing equations. The > problem is that Eq() is not an equation in the mathematical sense as the > following examples should demonstrate: > > t = S('t') > f = Function('f')(t) > g = Function('g')(t) > > equation = Eq(f,g+1) > equation2 = equation-1 > equation3 = equation.diff(t) > equation4 = equation.subs(equation) # this I can do with subs(*equation.args) > > Having a symbolic comparison of terms seems useful to me, so I totally get > equation and Eq and their meaning. > However, an equation class satsifying the mathematics for the above examples > seems to be absent in sympy. > > What I am proposing is to think of a way that equations are made a basic > building block in mathematics and imho should be likewise in a mathematics > tool. > That said, I know ways to do all of the above, but it is really not intuitive > to have every expression in a "x-y=0" form. > I would think that next to nobody actually thinks like that. And the code is > hard to subsitute, because you need to do > > eq = g+1-f > eq.subs(f,eq+f) > > or even worse looking use solve. > > Another big thing is printing. Printing "x-y" is very hard to read and you > need to explain this unconfort to any new user. > Having "x=y" would be just as everyone learns in maths. > > Programmatically I don't think that a new equation class, or the changes to > Eq() would be a huge deal. > But programming it myself and then using a non-standard for something as > standard as an equation seems really bad practice. > What do you guys think about that? > > Thanks again > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sympy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sympy@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sympy. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/464c0dd6-bd2c-445f-942a-4fe75f1f91bc%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sympy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sympy@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sympy. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/CAKgW%3D6JF%3DDOSDz%2BPGd_pfVVHreL4fQVfHFTF%2BtCWaeyqw%3DBang%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.