I didn't realize that thebelab requires jupyter-sphinx. That limits
its usefulness. It is a very interesting project and I hope we can
someday replace SymPy Live with either it or something like it.

Aaron Meurer

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:13 PM Jason Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> A third thing you can do with jupyter-sphinx is enable thebelab. This 
> connects the sphinx page to a binder instance and you can run the code and 
> change it, which sympy-live already does too. SymPy live integration was 
> really ahead of its time!
>
> Jason
> moorepants.info
> +01 530-601-9791
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:05 PM Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:29 PM Jason Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > There are some ways to integrate Jupyter notebooks with Sphinx that didn't 
>> > exist when we created the sympy-notebooks repo. One main issue is that you 
>> > only want to commit un-executed notebooks to the main SymPy repo so that 
>> > the binary outputs don't pollute and grow the git repo.
>> >
>> > Some options:
>> >
>> > - Commit unexecuted notebooks to a repo and then have a CI service run 
>> > nbconvert to convert them to HTML pages. This is what we did here: 
>> > https://www.sympy.org/scipy-2017-codegen-tutorial/
>> >
>> > - jupyter-sphinx: write rst files with code blocks that are labeled as 
>> > jupyter cells. When our CI service builds the docs, these "notebooks" are 
>> > run and the output added to the documentation. 
>> > https://github.com/jupyter/jupyter-sphinx. I used this for PyDy and I like 
>> > the result. It can even preserve some ipywiget-like functionality. Here is 
>> > an example from PyDy: 
>> > https://pydy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/examples/multidof-holonomic.html 
>> > (note the 3D viz at the end). I like this because you can write the 
>> > documentation in a text editor like normal instead of having to write in 
>> > the Jupyter interface. You get a "download as notebook" button also.
>>
>> The ability to download the document as an executable notebook is
>> nice. The other advantage is that you get LaTeX output in the cells,
>> because it executes like a notebook rather than a Python session.
>>
>> Aside from those two things though, I don't see much of a difference
>> from just writing an RST document in the docs with doctested examples
>> interleaved with descriptive text.
>>
>> Aaron Meurer
>>
>> >
>> > - sphinxcontrib-jupyter: process jupyter notebooks that then get added to 
>> > the sphinx docs. You have to write in the Jupyter interface for this one.
>> >
>> > There are other options too. I think it would be nice to have the 
>> > notebooks integrated within docs.
>> >
>> > Jason
>> > moorepants.info
>> > +01 530-601-9791
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nikhil Maan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for showing interest in improving SymPy's documentation. Can you 
>> >> tell us a little about what kind of tutorials/guides your project would 
>> >> be focused on?
>> >>
>> >> As for incorporating the notebooks, there was a previous discussion at 
>> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sympy/_5RcJXGOgP4
>> >> The plan is to move all the notebooks to the 
>> >> https://github.com/sympy/sympy-notebooks repository so that all the 
>> >> notebooks can be at a single standard place. So, I think it will be a 
>> >> good idea to have any notebooks you create as a part of the project at 
>> >> the same repo.
>> >>
>> >> Also, just to make sure, the deadline for the application is in 2 days, 
>> >> on July 9, 2020, 18:00 UTC
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Nikhil Maan
>> >>
>> >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 5:46:04 AM UTC+5:30, John Yoon wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello, my name is John Yoon, and I would like to express my interest in 
>> >>> contributing to your team for Google’s Season of Docs. Among SymPy’s 
>> >>> various projects, the one focusing on High Level Documentation seems 
>> >>> particularly fascinating and full of potential for innovation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> My combined background as both an English major and Computer Science 
>> >>> major would prove useful for the task at hand. Similarly, my prior big 
>> >>> data internship in a research setting at Oregon State University’s 
>> >>> Center for Genome Research and Biocomputing have fostered my Python and 
>> >>> data skills. Furthermore, I currently work as a cloud reliability 
>> >>> engineer at NYC’s cybersecurity agency, which has developed a 
>> >>> familiarity working with Git, as well as documenting my Python 
>> >>> implementations of Cloud Functions. Consequently, I offer a unique 
>> >>> perspective with which to approach this project.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> My analysis of the project description resulted in a precursory plan to 
>> >>> focus on three primary areas: identifying the most common and useful use 
>> >>> cases of SymPy, develop documentation and tutorials for the 
>> >>> aforementioned cases (i.e., Jupyter notebooks or diagrams), and 
>> >>> refactoring any existing documentation relevant to the most important 
>> >>> use cases. Per an earlier conversation I had with Aaron, I am curious 
>> >>> about the team's opinion on setting the precedence of incorporating 
>> >>> Jupyter notebooks into the project's documentation in order to 
>> >>> facilitate more tangible and interactive tutorials.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I would enjoy speaking further about this project to either narrow or 
>> >>> broaden the scope of the team’s documentation endeavors, and to also get 
>> >>> a better understanding of the organization’s workflows and culture. 
>> >>> Please feel free to contact me to discuss further, so I may have a 
>> >>> better understanding of the project prior to the formal application 
>> >>> submission later this week. I have attached my resume and two 
>> >>> documentation samples for your consideration. Thank you.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> John
>> >>
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