Hi.

Thanks for sharing. This looks like a great use of SymPy and other tools in
the Python ecosystem. I'd love to see more geogebra-like tools that make
use of SymPy and sympy.geometry to get exact algebraic expressions
surrounding geometric constructions.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:47 AM phi ARCHITECT <illumi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Aaron and the Sympy team ~
>
> I hope I am not too late to propose the *GEOMETOR Explorer* project for a
> NumFOCUS development grant.


The deadline is this Friday, so it's possibly too late. Can you go into
detail on what you'd like to propose to do? I'd prefer for these small
development grants to go towards making improvements to SymPy itself,
rather than to projects that make use of SymPy. But perhaps there are some
improvements that you've seen that could be made to sympy.geometry while
working on this.

Also, generally speaking, I'd like to use the small development grants to
fund people who have already contributed to SymPy before, so that there is
a clear track record that they are able to complete the work.

Aaron Meurer


>
>
> *GEOMETOR Explorer* is a Python library for modelling, analyzing and
> rendering complex geometric constructions using symbolic algebra. Of
> course, Sympy is at the heart of it.
>
> But first, an introduction. My friends call me *phi*, as in φ, the Greek
> letter, for reasons that will be obvious. I am not a mathematician, but I
> have had a career as an architect beginning with buildings and later in
> developing software and enterprise systems. But my true love has always
> been drafting - making beautiful drawings.
>
> A few years ago, I decided to indulge my interest in the golden ratio,
> particularly making geometric constructions that demonstrate golden
> sections. I started with hand drawings, reteaching myself geometry and
> algebra. I noticed that constructing one golden section often led to other
> sections in the field. It seemed to be everywhere. But the challenge of
> demonstrating that was daunting. I first turned to Geogebra, which greatly
> expanded my knowledge allowing me to create large geometric constructions
> and confirm the golden sections, but it required a lot of manual
> intervention and the results were numeric values. I felt if we were to
> really discover patterns, we would need to build the model symbolically.
>
> I set out to develop an scriptable system to generate the constructions,
> find all intersection points, and then find all the golden sections. After
> a false start with a browser-based solution, last January I found Sympy and
> Matplotlib. I had never worked with Python before so it was a big step, but
> the capabilities I have been able to pull together in less than a year are
> amazing to me.
>
> The most recent video on my YouTube channel demonstrates a series of
> constructions generated with GEOMETOR Explorer resulting in an incredible
> numbers of golden sections uncovered.
> 22.187 • finding golden sections with the new GEOMETOR Explorer
> <https://youtu.be/IOKgXb6Kce0>
>
> GEOMETOR on Github <https://github.com/geometor>
> I have established a Github organization (https://github.com/geometor) to
> be the center of all of the development and interaction around the
> projects, including hosting websites and documentation.
>
> Shifting GEOMETOR Explorer to Python has led me to shift all my content
> development and publishing tools to Python, as well. This will allow me to
> standardize on ReST for everything. So, the websites are in a state of flux
> but I have most the infrastructure in place.
>
> There is a lot to further develop. At the core are the GEOMETOR Explorer
> <https://github.com/geometor/geometor-explorer> libraries. The current
> version in the main branch is very "scripty" - grown organically as I was
> learning. In the develop branch, I have started refactoring the library
> into a simpler and more functional interface and adding documentation. I
> also want to add more analysis capabilities to identify harmonic ranges /
> symmetries. And ultimately, publish a reliable version for anyone to use on
> PyPI.
>
> Context for further development:
>
>    - Deep Field project
>    how many elements can we add to a geometric model?
>    how many more golden sections in the field?
>    generating large models is compute intensive -
>    will it push Sympy to limits?
>    - Euclid project
>    create a functional hierarchy of all the constructions of Euclid's
>    Elements
>    development on parsing the heath edition
>    - Phyllotaxis project
>    study golden ratio and fibonacci patterns in plant formation
>    3d modeling
>    - Polynumbers project
>    based on the lectures of Norman Wildberger
>    introduces polynomials into the Explorer capabilities
>    crazy cool renderings
>    - Pappus project
>    demonstrate Pappus Theorem with analysis
>    leading to Hexagrammum Mysticum.
>    - Heptadecagon project
>    create a symbolic construction of a regular 17-sided figure
>
> I hope this is enough to start a conversation. I have been wanting to step
> into the Sympy community for some time. Consider it done.
>
> I have two YouTube channels if you want to see more:
>
>    - phi ARCHITECT
>    <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzRQS16EBmsbKuyKMFHSFQ> channel
>    where I talk about what I am working on
>    - GEOMETOR <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw7yqZJDQ0A6WkAlxGKLeg>
>    channel
>    generated content from the research. The most recent videos were
>    generated, orchestrated, accompanied and assembled with Python.
>
> Let's see if any of this is a good fit for a grant!
>
> ~ φ
> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 1:10:13 PM UTC-7 asme...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> NumFOCUS has opened 2022 round 3 of their small development grants.
>>
>> NumFOCUS small development grants allow funding NumFOCUS projects, such
>> as SymPy for work. Each project may submit at most one grant proposal.
>>
>> If anyone is interested in applying for this grant to do some work on
>> SymPy, please reach out to me. In the past, we have used these grants to
>> pay people to do maintenance work and to pay people to develop some
>> features.
>>
>> I have included the details below. If you are interested in applying,
>> please reach out to me about it by August 26 so that we will have time to
>> create and submit a proposal to NumFOCUS.
>>
>> Timeline:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Deadline for Proposal Submission: Sep 02, 2022
>>    -
>>
>>    Projects will be Notified: Oct 14, 2022 (or sooner)
>>
>>
>> Available Funding:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Approx. $90,000 available to be awarded
>>    -
>>
>>    Up to $10,000 per proposal
>>
>>
>> Eligibility:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Any NumFOCUS Fiscally Sponsored or Affiliated project may submit *one*
>>    proposal on behalf of the project *per grant cycle*.
>>    -
>>
>>       If you wish to solicit proposal ideas from your project community,
>>       the project leaders must organize their own review process to select 
>> the
>>       proposal that the leadership will put forward to NumFOCUS.
>>       -
>>
>>    Funding can be used for: code development, documentation work;
>>    website updates; workshops and sprints; educational, sustainability, and
>>    diversity initiatives, travel to meetings & events, or other types of
>>    projects.
>>    -
>>
>>    Proposed work must be achievable within the 12 months following the
>>    award.
>>    -
>>
>>    The call is open to applicants from any nationality and can be
>>    performed at any university, institute, or business worldwide (US export
>>    laws permitting).
>>
>>
>> Funding Distribution:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    For fiscally sponsored projects only, NumFOCUS can deposit the grant
>>    funding directly into the project’s account. The project would then
>>    submit invoices through the usual channels (i.e. Open Collective) to pay
>>    the grant expenses.
>>    -
>>
>>    NumFOCUS can set up an independent contractor agreement with an
>>    individual or company for work that exceeds $600 USD.
>>    -
>>
>>    NumFOCUS can award the money as a grant or subcontract to a student
>>    or postdoc at a university (depending on the university's rules).
>>    -
>>
>>    NumFOCUS can directly pay for expenses associated with the grant
>>    (e.g. booking flights on behalf of project leaders to attend a workshop,
>>    per diems for travel days)
>>
>>
>> You can see past successful proposals here:
>> https://numfocus.org/programs/small-development-grants.
>>
>> Aaron Meurer
>>
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