Oh apperarantly, I mixed both of them and come up with totally different
thing “Gröebner”. Thanks for pointing that out! My mistake there.

Atahan

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 12:22 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here’s just a little note on the German name Gröbner. The letters ä, ö,
> and ü can be substituted by ae, oe, and ue and, in fact, the form oe is
> older than ö. However, some proper names, such as Goethe, always use oe and
> not ö. The Gröbner basis was named after the mathematician Wolfgang
> Gröbner, so we see that the proper name in this case is Gröbner. If the
> substitution is applied, the result is Groebner. In other languages, such a
> Finnish, the rules are different.
>
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Smith
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2023 7:52 AM
> *To:* sympy <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [sympy] Self Introductory and Gröebner Bases
>
>
>
> There is some preliminary work at
> https://github.com/sympy/sympy/issues/23665 that aims to improve
> exponentiation of certain types of polynomials. It might be a good GSOC
> task.
>
> /c
>
> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 9:18:10 PM UTC-5 Chris Smith wrote:
>
> update: When reviewing this it is not clear to me how much of this already
> made it in in some form or another. Look for PRs be author:pernici that
> were committed. Search also for lpoly.
>
>
>
> /c
>
> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5 Chris Smith wrote:
>
> There was some promising work (as I recall) that stalled at
> https://github.com/sympy/sympy/pull/609. See discussion there for idea to
> get that work from level 0 representation of Poly to level 1.
>
>
>
> /c
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 8:16:48 PM UTC-5 Oscar wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 at 20:39, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 3:04 PM Atahan Haznedar
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Oscar,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the late reply, after seeing the post you have made, I can
> pretty much can say that I am really excited! There are lots of things on
> the polynomial side to be done as far as I can see. I am not that familiar
> with Sympy at the moment so probably I am just going to tinker and try to
> get used to using Sympy in my leisure time by implementing some examples
> and algorithms that I have studied so far. So probably I am not going to be
> able to make a contribution soon. Is this a problem for my submission on
> GSoC?
> >
> > Most polynomial algorithms are already implemented in SymPy, but if
> > you find something that's missing that would definitely be a good
> > submission. Otherwise, I would recommend finding some bugs to fix
> > (e.g. from the sympy issue tracker). That's generally the best way to
> > learn about the codebase in my experience.
>
> While many of the most needed algorithms are implemented there is
> plenty of scope to improve those implementations or to implement
> better algorithms. More commonly though the problem is that the
> algorithms are not being used very well by the rest of SymPy. Groebner
> bases are a good example here because the algorithms are there and
> they work but:
>
> 1. By default Groebner uses the slower buchberger algorithm even
> though f5b is implemented and similarly many places want a zero
> dimensional basis but don't make use of the existing fglm algorithm.
> 2. The code that consumes the output of Groebner can be massively
> improved. The code to solve systems of polynomial equations in solve
> and nonlinsolve uses Groebner but really does not do a good job of
> processing the output of groebner:
> https://github.com/sympy/sympy/issues/24868
>
> The number one priority around Groebner bases is not implementing new
> algorithms to compute them but rather improving the way that the
> existing algorithms are used in the codebase.
>
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