Hi,

In general I agree about speech policing - but in this particular case
- 'main' is the default in Git now, it is becoming the standard
everywhere else - and it's a perfectly reasonable renaming - "main" is
a good word for the - er - main branch - at least as good as "master"
- semantically.

Cheers,

Matthew

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:30 AM Peter Stahlecker
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Perfect!!
> This political correctness of the language, which has become a big issue in 
> my mother tongue, German, only serves to distract from the real problems.
>
> On Tue 18. Jul 2023 at 12:14, Hanspeter “Hanspi” Schmid 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Somehow I find this very disturbing. Why does everyone seem to be so sure 
>> that master must be understood (and therefore shunned) as half of 
>> master-slave instead of half of master-apprentice or master-bachelor or 
>> master-junior? Am I from now on forbidden to master a technique? Should I 
>> stop listening to master violinists? Do we have to abandon or rename Master 
>> programs after the Bachelor programs?
>>
>> I totally agree that terms like 'master-slave flip-flop' must be changed. 
>> However, there have never been slave branches on github, and making this 
>> change totally means bringing the present political upheavalsof mainly one 
>> big country into a international, technical context where it really does not 
>> belong.
>>
>> So yes, I am totally opposed to doing this. As long as you can still get a 
>> Master degree at a single American university, I do not even consider one 
>> second of the SymPy's development team well spent on this issue.
>> [email protected] schrieb am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2023 um 06:26:09 UTC+2:
>>>
>>> Somehow it does not look like the most urgent problem to me - but then 
>>> again I am old, white and male. 😊
>>>
>>> On Tue 18. Jul 2023 at 11:23, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not opposed to doing this. Most other projects have also done it,
>>>> so it would be inline with that. It also has the advantage that "main"
>>>> is a much clearer term to newbies than "master".
>>>>
>>>> But note that this is not a trivial thing to do, which is why it
>>>> hasn't happened yet. It's not as simple as just renaming the branch.
>>>> We also have to fix all the references to "master" everywhere,
>>>> including making sure that all our automation and release scripts
>>>> still work.
>>>>
>>>> There's also an unfortunate downside of doing this, which is that
>>>> anyone who already has a clone of the repo and is using "git checkout
>>>> master; git pull" will have their workflows broken when master stops
>>>> being updated. I don't know if there's a clean way we can do anything
>>>> about that.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Meurer
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 9:25 PM Sangyub Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I think that github decided to do that in 2020.
>>>> > And the main reason to do this is that 'master' is agreed to be 
>>>> > politically offensive terminology:
>>>> >
>>>> > Rename offensive terminology (master) - Simon Pieters (kernel.org)
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