My comments are in line,
On 3/19/06, Soumadeep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,One thing I completely agree with Sanjiva is that this has been dragged unnecessarily for this long. Let me emphasize here one thing, that the intension is not to replace the concepts of data binding as used by XMLBeans which is again an Apache project or trying to re-invent what has been written. To this effect enough reasons have been provided as to why this approach was taken. For convenience let me give one of the use cases and reasons for which SynapseObject was proposed:
Following reasons is addressed by Axis2 's codegen concepts.
Reasons:1) Java Properties class lets you handle name-value pairs in a very good way but when it comes to representing complex objects it becomes very difficult.2) Using the concept of data binding introduces a very rigid and tight coupling of data and schema. So if the schema changes the underlying data handling mechanism needs to be changed (which includes the beans/classes to hold the complex data structure)
This is why there are two entities exists in Axis2. If the xml is schema compliant i will use XSD2Java, if not i will write my beans and use BeanUtil.
3) Intelligent search features are either driven by xpath/xqueries for pure XML or embedded logic if beans are used, SynapseObject has inbuilt search features by which you can perform complex searches4) The reason people use Java Properties class is because name-value pairs can be shared by other class without any dependency. SynapseObject is more like a Properties Class with added features to handle Complex Objects and also allow search features.
Synapse is a user of Axis2, so let it be a user of Axis2's XSD2Java, BeanUtil and Jaxen compliant Xpath.
Uses Cases:A) Data-Sharing between mediators: Consumers need to be identified, once it's identified the information could be shared by the SLA mediator which depending on a consumer will set the priority. Below is the pseudo code of how this can be achieved using SynapseObject and how datasharing would become easy.Background Info:-----------------------ConsumerIdentification mediator needs to identify a client by the following ways:1) IP {eg. 192.168.5.*}2) IP Range {eg. 192.168.5.20- 192.168.5.30}3) WS-SEC auth token4) HTTP auth token5) certificate(Other factors that need to be considered whether the incoming message was first encrypted and then signed or was it signed and then encrypted).Let's consider 1) IPUsing SynapseObject:ConsumerIdentification--------------------------------xml frag:<?xml version='1.0' encoding='windows-1252'?>
<SynapseObject name="ci">
<SynapseObject name="consumer0">
<Attribute name="CONSUMER_TYPE" type="String">GOLD</Attribute><Attribute name="IP_ADDRESS_FROM" type="String">192.168.6.0</Attribute>
<Attribute name="IP_ADDRESS_TO" type="String">192.168.6.255</Attribute>
<Attribute name="HTTP_AUTH_USERNAME" type="String">john</Attribute>
<Attribute name="WS_SEC_USERNAME" type="String">john</Attribute>
<SynapseObject name="assignedService">
<Attribute name="serviceid1" type="String">stockQuote1</Attribute>
</SynapseObject>
</SynapseObject>
<SynapseObject name="consumer1">
<Attribute name="CONSUMER_TYPE" type="String">SILVER</Attribute>
<Attribute name="IP_ADDRESS_FROM" type="String">192.168.6.255</Attribute>
<Attribute name="IP_ADDRESS_TO" type="String">192.167.6.255</Attribute>
<Attribute name="HTTP_AUTH_USERNAME" type="String">mary</Attribute>
<Attribute name="WS_SEC_USERNAME" type="String">mary</Attribute>
<SynapseObject name="assignedService">
<Attribute name="serviceid1" type="String">stockQuote</Attribute>
<Attribute name="ip" type="String">192</Attribute>
</SynapseObject>
</SynapseObject>
</SynapseObject>
Back to square one,
Above can be written as,
<ci>
<consumer name="consumer0">
<type>GOLD</type>
<ip_address_from>192.168.6.0 </ip_address_from>
<ip_address_to>192.167.6.255 </ip_address_to>
<http_auth_username>Mary</http_auth_username>
<ws_sec_username>Mary</ws_sec_username>
</consumer>
<service name="assingedservice">
<!-- other stuff -->
</service>
<consumer name="consumer1">
<!-- related suff -->
</consumer>
<!-- other services or consumers or related stuff -->
</ci>
which is much more readable,
If i want intelligent search i use xpath. A lot of users know how to use xpath, so it's Zero training. If i write simple beans, i can populate the bean objects using BeanUtil. Now in production the above xml should be schema aware. That's the whole point of inventing schema. So i will use XSD2Java. Now these technologies are not going to hook into Synapse core.
in the ci mediator code fragment// the the requester ipip = {get the remote ip from the messageContext/SynapseContext }//Identify if the consumer is there and get appropriate details and store the consumer related details in the messageContext, one more things to note is that storing shared data is by the mediator name itself eg. ciSynapseObject obj = consumerIdentification.findSynapseObjectByAttributeValueStartingWith(ip);messageContext.setProperty(consumerIdentification.getName(),obj);obj will contain all the required values if identified!SLA------xml Fragment:<SynapseObject name="SLA"><SynapseObject name="consumer0"><SynapseObject name="Service0"><Attribute name="EPR" type="String">http://www.webservicex.net/stockquote.asmx</Atrribute><Attribute name="priority" type="Integer">0</Attribute></SynapseObject><SynapseObject name="Service1"><Attribute name="EPR" type="String">http://www.webservicex.net/findZIPCode.asmx</Atrribute><Attribute name="priority" type="Integer">1</Attribute></SynapseObject></SynapseObject></SynapseObject>
IMHO above xml fragment would treat as the prior.
in the SLA Mediator code fragment//As there is a dependency between the SLA mediator and CI the SLA mediator will pick information for its dependency (Note: we also proposed a concept//of MediatorContext which will have dependency and other information for a particular mediator)
Excuse me btw :)
//Get the identified consumer from the messagecontextSynapseObject consumerIdentification = (SynapseObject)messageContext.getProperty("ci");// get the consumer name and consumer typeString consumerName = consumerIdentification.getName();String consumerType = consumerIdentification.getString("CONSUMER_TYPE");//find the sla details for the identified consumerSynapseObject consumer = sla.findSynapseObjectByAttributeValue(consumerName);String fromAddress = (String)synapseMessageContext.getTo();SynapseObject service = consumer.findSynapseObjectByAttributeValue(fromAddress );// The priority value would be used by the SLA mediator to forward the request to the provider depending on the priority.String priority = service.getString("priority");
Now as i can understand from the above code fragments, SynaspeObject has to have a hook to Synapse core. As we agreed, SO should be an extension. Besides, as technology exists for manipulating the required xml, (xpath, XSD2Java, BeanUtil) for mediators without having a hook to Synapse core, why on earth we make SO a core feature?
Thank you
Saminda
RegardsSoumadeep-----Original Message-----
From: Saminda Abeyruwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SynapseObject - Reminder...Hi Devs,
These are my concern regarding SynapseObject,
If the following XML is considered wrt SynapseObject semantics,
<SynapseObject name="sla">
<attribute name="service" type="STRING">http://myhost:myport/Service</attribute>
<SynapseObject name="consumer">
<attribute name="ip" type="STRING">192.9.2.11</attribute>
</SynapseObject>
</SynapseObject>
which is similar to,
<sla>
<service> http://myhost:myport/Service </service>
<consumer>
<ip>192.9.2.11</ip>
</consumer>
</sla>
Now if we have Java beans as follows,
public class sla {
private String service;
private Consumer consumer;
//getter and setters
}
public class Consumer {
private String ip;
//getter and setters
}
and using the Axis2's org.apache.axis2.databinding.utils.BeanUtil.getPullParser(Object beanObject, QName beanName);
i can get a XMLStreamReader and build the OMElement i need. And if i have prior XML, using
Object [] org.apache.axis2.databinding.utils.BeanUtil.deserialize(OMElement response, Object [] javaTypes); i can fill the bean object.
So if I'm a Mediator author, using BeanUtil i can manipulate XML with Zero training.
Now if my XML is schema complaint, using XSD2Java i can generate Beans and using XX.parse() method i can fill the beans.
So what is done by SynapseObject is already done by Axis2's BeanUtil and XSD2Java and they can do much more. So IMHO we do not need to reinvent the wheel with SynapseObject.
Those are my concerns.
Thank you
Saminda
On 3/17/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 18:44 +0530, Vikas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is regarding the Synapse object proposed by me and Soumadeep...
>
> For convenience I am putting below the links for reference:
> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-synapse-dev/200602.mbox/%
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] %3e>
> and the source code has been available in the Scratch
> < http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/synapse/trunk/scratch/infravio/synapse-SO >
>
> I feel that it an effective utility and have made use of it in a all
> the mediators that I would like to commit . It sure has made handling
> mediator's config data easier..
> Would be checking in the cleaned up code for SynapseObject as an
> extension...Which I guess is OK.
>
> Please let me know if anyone has any concerns about it??
I do .. I will write an explanatory reply tomrrow my time .. sorry for
keeping quiet; I've been reading much of this thread but just haven't
had the time to jump in.
I *will* dive in tomorrow (later today my time really). I'm afraid its
going to have lots of -1s against SynapseObject features :( .. just to
give you a warning of where its going.
Sanjiva.
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