Glen Can you set up the bot again please?
How about the same time as before which was 8am East Coast? We'll figure other timezones out from there. Paul ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Oct 10, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: Re: IRC chats To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] On 10/10/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/10/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) we log the chats to the dev list (yes I know we always did) > 2) If we have any proposals in the chats we explicitly send these out > as separate notes and follow up in email to make any decisions. In > other words the IRC chats are not formal decision making forums > (fora?) but there to stimulate discussion. > 3) we choose a time that is as convenient as possible to all our > global contributors. This is an extremely fine line to walk, so you must be prepared to be vigilant about ensuring that you don't present the IRC discussions as a fait accompli - and permit a true and honest discussion on-list. All decisions need to happen on the list, or it is as if the decision didn't occur.
To facilitate this, how about coming up with something users would be encouraged to cut-n-paste at the top of irc logs or other non-list summaries? Something to the effect of "These discussions happened outside the official dev mailing list and are still open for discussion. Feedback and further discussion is welcomed." It's normal for people to work up prototypes/designs on their own and present something to the dev list. If people want to work in a real-time collaborative manner on either code or discussions instead, it would seem beneficial to not discourage it too heavily. Collaborative development tools are just going to get better over time too. For myself, I dislike IRC/IM and prefer asynchronous mailing lists... but maybe I'm just getting old ;-) -Yonik --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Paul Fremantle VP/Technology, WSO2 and OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
