Paul, To make it simple for the users, I think we should make Synapse samples work such that users should be able to connect to either one (wso2 or our server) without editing any file in the standard distribution.
Also, how about hosting the same samples that get shipped with Axis2 1.1? That way there will be less maintenance headache? Sanjesh -----Original Message----- From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Newbie startup question Sanjesh Thanks for the offer - that would be really useful. Let's make a list of sample services we need and build a package. Paul On 11/14/06, Sanjesh Pathak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sajniva, > > We will host the same samples on our server too. This way the users have > redundancy. If one is not working they can connect to the other. > > Sanjesh > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Newbie startup question > > We can host whatever useful samples are needed to demo synapse > effectively. If anyone else also wants to offer such facilities let's > take them. > > I don't think we should corrupt the design or design in order to make > samples work better. > > Sanjiva. > > On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 22:04 +0000, Paul Fremantle wrote: > > Sounds good to me. I'll talk to our sysadmin about hosting some samples. > > > > Paul > > > > On 11/13/06, Rajith Attapattu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > how about hosting a remote demo service on wso2.net ? > > > like a dummy stockqote service which implements the features we need to > > > show. > > > > > > you guys already have a tungsten server that people can play with, so > why > > > not host this service ? > > > > > > but we better make sure that it's up and running 99.99% of the time :) > > > > > > Rajith > > > > > > > > > On 11/13/06, Paul Fremantle < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I take your points Sanjiva, and we did use to have samples that used > > > > publicly available services. Unfortunately, there aren't lots of easy > > > > to use services that demonstrate different aspects which is I think > > > > why we moved to Axis2 as the service host. > > > > > > > > I think there is a balance to be had. On the one hand having samples > > > > that show locally hosted services may confuse people. On the other > > > > hand, expecting people to go and install another piece of software > > > > before they can even try out Synapse seems like hard work. I'm sure > > > > its putting people off. > > > > > > > > I think we need to make it as easy as possible to install and try out > > > Synapse. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > On 11/13/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 09:08 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to cause a distraction here and that I can't be more > immediately > > > > > > helpful. Unless someone can find a simple way to make this work > > > > > > without hacking the synapse_sample xml in distracting ways, I > think it > > > > > > is probably best just to doc the fact that you need to have a > local > > > > > > Axis2 RC1 running to get the samples to work. > > > > > > > > > > +1. I think that's the right way to do it .. Synapse is a mediation > > > > > engine and not a service host. The fact that its on Axis2 and hence > can > > > > > host services should not be exploited to make it easier to run the > > > > > samples. > > > > > > > > > > If the samples require a local service then you need a local service > > > > > runtime to run the service. Ideally the samples should go against > remote > > > > > services so that the users don't have to do an work to get the > samples > > > > > running other than downloading Synapse. > > > > > > > > > > > I would be happy to > > > > > > patch the docs to reflect that if it would be helpful. For the > > > > > > release, it might be best to put the Axis2 RC into a more easily > > > > > > locatable place like, e.g. > > > http://people.apache.org/builds/axis2 or > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > Axis2 1.1 should be going out in a few hours ... > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Fremantle > > > > VP/Technology, WSO2 and OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > > > > > > > > http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Paul Fremantle VP/Technology, WSO2 and OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
