I very much share your desire to move on, but thats difficult if you keep throwing out inaccuracies in the same email you are asking to move on.

rust is not a Mozilla product. Not yet. And not any time soon. Its an R&D effort as of today. By the time we productize rust, hopefully we will have evolved our tooling closer towards a github world or github itself.

And pdf.js has a bugzilla component (Firefox / PDF View) where issues are reported and tracked, with 424 active issues on file as we speak.

In the interest of avoiding further noise I will stop short of explaining why your logic breaks down in case of Persona as well.

So how about we move on now for real instead of piling on any more claims that don't hold up.

Andreas

Lloyd Hilaiel wrote:
On Aug 13, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Andreas Gal<[email protected]>  wrote:

You seem to be implying that I am uncomfortable with projects using different 
tools. That is as unfair as it is inaccurate. I heavily use github, github 
issues and a whole range of tools that are not bugzilla and hg. Every project 
we do in research is on github. Every project I start that is not meant to be a 
Mozilla product you can find on my github. I simply learned the hard way that 
for Mozilla products you have to stick to the Mozilla process (we had to 
migrate FFOS off Github issues and into bugzilla, that really sucked), and I am 
trying to help you avoid making mistakes I made before. Don't shoot the 
messenger who is trying to help you, not on this list, and not on any other 
list.

I'm sorry if you took my response as offensive or implying things that are 
unfair or inaccurate, Andreas.  All I'm saying is I think we can agree that we 
use bugzilla for sync work and move on.  And I really am excited that you're so 
involved on the list, even when it's challenging.

All I was trying to say is, from where I sit, "Mozilla products have to stick to the 
Mozilla process" is divergent from reality.  rust, Persona, and pdf.js are a couple 
examples of mozilla projects that use github issues.  Typing another word about them is 
not needed.  And I'm saying if we're overly broad with our edicts here, it alienates 
folks working hard on those projects - and adds noise to this list.

For sync, we use bugzilla.  And we move on.  ok?

lloyd

Andreas
Let's not make the issue broader than is necessary for this list - if you're 
uncomfortable with projects that use different tools, there are better forums 
for discussing that.

lloyd


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