On Jan 10, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Ryan Feeley <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do think we can fit this in? It looks pretty great.
> 

Let's consider it for Fx30+ :)


> On Jan 9, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Chris Karlof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> This one is a little better than average, though, :)
>> 
>> https://tech.dropbox.com/2012/04/zxcvbn-realistic-password-strength-estimation/
>> 
>> -chris
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 8, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Chris Karlof <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Madhava,
>>> 
>>> I'm not keen on password strength estimators. Two reasons: 
>>> 
>>> 1) It's not clear how they should work. There's a lot of debate of what 
>>> qualifies as a "strong password". and many strength estimators often do 
>>> silly things like say "password0" is weak but "password9" is strong. 
>>> 2) They add UX noise for unknown benefit. Plus a believer that if a user 
>>> really wants a weak password for whatever reason [1], we shouldn't shame 
>>> them with a big red indicator or frowny face. 
>>> 
>>> There are some things I think we should do:
>>> 1) Require a minimum length (8 char?)
>>> 2) Provide guidance for users who would like to know how to choose a 
>>> stronger password
>>> 3) Throttle bad password guesses
>>> 
>>> Another interesting idea is to disallow users from using passwords on a 
>>> "naughty list", e.g., a list of the X hundred or thousand most common 
>>> passwords. This combined with throttling can be quite effective.
>>> 
>>> -chris
>>> 
>>> [1] hey, how often do you sign up for a service you don't care about much 
>>> or just wanna try out and give it some garbage password?
>>> 
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> Ryan Feeley
> Product Designer, Identity
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