Hi. On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 18:21 +0100, Guido Diepen wrote: > On Friday 21 December 2007 17:55:37 Mark Ellis wrote: > > I guessed that was what you were up to, though I hadn't got around to > > looking at it properly, excellent, good luck ! Mine was only a stopgap > > measure, personally I'm not actually bothered since I'm a gnomer, but it > > seemed a shame to cut raki loose entirely. > > I am really trying to get this working, since I use KDE. Fortunately I do a > lot of things console based, but still it is nice to have some things done in > the GUI also :) And since everybody else was using gnome, I decided to work > on a successor of raki :)
I think o-vdccm is possibly moving in the wrong direction. I have a feeling that syncing should be done by something desktop-independent. So, the current system of using opensync works fine with this idea (albeit not being the most user-friendly). The other parts of SynCE that would be great on the desktop are quite small -- partnership handling perhaps, application removal, etc. This latter bit is basically what Guido has written as synce-kdm. I like it. > > I would suggest at some point then that we decouple rapip and raki. > > This is definitely what I would like to suggest. Because rapip really works > regardless of RAKI and imho it is a very very useful program. Since more and > more people will get wm5+ devices, I think it would be nice for them to have > the abilitiy to install this separately. Agreed. There are many different parts of SynCE, as we all know. All of these parts seem catered for on the command line (select_partnership.py, pls, pcp, msynctool --sync..) Availability on your desktop is a different story though. For example: File browsing: GNOME: gnomevfs KDE: rapip (needs separating from synce-kde perhaps) Application management: GNOME: -- KDE: synce-kdm Connection state (bit of a loose example here!): GNOME: trayicon KDE: -- (perhaps synce-kdm in the future?) Password entry if required: GNOME: synce-gnome && traycon IIRC KDE: -- (but perhaps synce-kdm soon?) Registry editor (option, of course): GNOME: registry-tool KDE: -- kcemirror-esque application: GNOME: -- (Mark, you said you'd created a clone?) KDE: kcemirror (obviously) Partnership management: GNOME: -- KDE: -- Anyway, those are the basic tools for desktops (excluding syncing). This list points out two things: some desktops have missing applications; and there are an awful number of different applications for the same desktop. For example, with GNOME, it would be great if trayicon lived in your tray (obviously) and it: managed partnerships, notified the user upon device connection/disconnection, displayed a password entry if needed, managed application installation/removal, and contained up a Gtk-kcemirror-esque app. (Perhaps even contain the registry editor?) SynCE is already in so many parts that having yet more desktop applications would be bad.. I'd love for people to install everything needed for great usage of SynCE with: libsynce, librapi2, librra, odccm, sync-engine, synce-gnome (replace gnome with kde where appropriate). The desktop syncing question is a whole different thing. I personally would stick with a third-party syncing app like we're doing at the moment with opensync. Perhaps my ideal trayicon application (detailed above) could skip through setting up a SynCE group for OpenSync and call "sync"..? OpenSync has actually got a D-BUS interface. (Another option could be to use Conduit. This, however, is whole different I will not discuss here. I would hate a raki-esque tool for only syncing SynCE to be created. A waste of time in my opinion.) I hope some of this makes sense. I kind-of diverged from the subject of dccms onto desktop applications. Thoughts? -- Jonny Lamb, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jonnylamb.com GPG: 0x2E039402
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