On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 10:18 +0100, Lukas Zeller wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2010, at 17:34 , Patrick Ohly wrote:
> 
> > [...] For synchronization via wireless, there are two
> > options:
> >      * ad-hoc direct between device and PC: would work without any
> >        additional hardware, but uncommon
> >      * devices log into the same W-LAN: that's how devices typically
> >        connect to the Internet, but they won't know about each other,
> >        so direct sync without manual configuration becomes harder
> > 
> > One possible solution for the second problem is DNS Service Discovery,
> > as used by Apple Bonjour and Avahi on Linux: http://www.dns-sd.org/
> 
> Just to say - I took a tiny first step into that direction with our
> iPhone apps, as Bonjour is readily available there. The server side
> annouces itself via Bonjour, and the URL entry field in the client has
> a Bonjour browser so in a iPhone to iPhone sync the user can just
> select the other iphone from a list.
> 
> Of course, it's a long way to go from here to real select-and-use. Due
> to the lack of a standardized SyncML service description, I have to
> announce the SyncML server as a web server (_http._tcp), and the
> browser part has to show any web server (which often includes config
> webpages of network printers etc.). And it's only the URL.

Adding a new description is easy, in particular if it is proprietary,
see the top of:
http://www.dns-sd.org/ServiceTypes.html

> I wonder if it might be possible for "us" (Intel, Nokia, Synthesis :-)
> to define such a spec for Bonjour-based SyncML service discovery and
> try to have it standardized? Right now, I don't have the slightest
> idea if this could be feasible, and what standardisation body we'd
> need to address, and if that would be someting only OMA itself can do
> or could be added "from outside" etc.

"We" should definitely define something and register it officially as
DNS-SD service type. If we pick a neutral name (not SyncML or OMA-DS),
then I guess we can do it without OMA getting involved. But we should
also drive a discussion with the OMA consortium to get this ratified by
them.

Intel is a OMA member and I know who our representative is. I suggest we
write up a proposal and then approach OMA. I can do both sometime next
week, if you want.

> Given that there's also a wide area version of Bonjour/dns-sd, that
> could be huge for non local HTTP as well. I guess none of the internet
> SyncML service providers would hesitate a second to add some extra DNS
> records to help their users to setup sync...

Agreed.

-- 
Best Regards, Patrick Ohly

The content of this message is my personal opinion only and although
I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way
represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak
on behalf of Intel on this matter.


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