Quoting Magosanyi Arpad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 01:10:15PM 
+0200:
 > A levelez?m azt hiszi, hogy Volker Wiegand a k�vetkez?eket �rta:
 > 
 > > Generally I think the beast should have a new name, but still be able to
 > > be recognised. As far as I can see, SyslogNG has already been taken. So I
 > > vote for NSyslog, being short for "New Syslog", if that is still free. A
 > 
 > It is taken by Darren. Actually it is the precursor of syslog-ng.

syslog2 is fine for me.

 > > On network connections:
 > > Currently syslog uses UDP only. Of course we should keep UDP. It is quite
 > 
 > We should keep UDP only for backward compatibility IMHO.
Yes please!

 > > On extensibility:
 > > We all agree that the current bitmask design is way too inflexible. We
 > > also want to be able to include new facilities as they are needed. My
 > > suggestion is a list maintained the same way as the TCP port assignment.
 > > [Excursion into implementation: you want a local /etc/facilities, which
 > > can also be implemented with a NIS map, an LDAP service or anything that
 > > can empower it like /etc/services]. The list shall be maintained by IANA.
 > > The current bit masked values could more or less easily be integrated.
 > 
 > Interesting idea.
 > I would better like a name than a number. I guess most of the facility
 > names are local to your logging system, and also have some sort of
 > structure (e.g. "firewall/ftp-proxy/from-here-to-there").

Log files would get awfully verbose then. and I typically see several meg of
log entries per day on a typical DMZ environment. 
Having a /etc/facilities file that can be user extended (with decent defaults
in a fiven range) should be easy to set up.

 > > On backward compatibility:
 > > A challange, indeed. Within the local machine this touches the config file
 > > and the output format, and of course the daemons. I would like to keep the
 > > basic /etc/syslog.conf design, but have more flexibility in extending it.
 > > Several current approaches use braces after the facility+severity. To be
 > > honest, I dislike this. Limits the number of extensions and actually voids
 > > the readability. My proposal is a "continuation record", disguised as a
 > > comment with a marker. Sorry if this is already talking implementation.
 > 
 > I am quite happy with syslog-ng's log format. The syslog.conf format is
 > a way too simple.

I do like the syslog-ng format. Easy to extend and still readable. See also
named.conf.  

cheers
afx
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