Re: FYI: FTP location of output of IETF46 syslog BOF

[by way of "Chris M. Lonvick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

---------------------- Forwarded by Alex Brown/US/3Com on 11/30/99 04:23 PM
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Jon Callas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/30/99 04:20:14 PM

Sent by:  Jon Callas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   Alex Brown/US/3Com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:   "Jon Callas" <callas @counterpane.com>
Subject:  Re: FYI: FTP location of output of IETF46 syslog BOF




At 03:36 PM 11/23/99 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 >Hello -- we met at the Syslog Security BOF that I chaired at IETF46.   At
 >this point the IESG has not approved the work for WG status, but we're
told
 >we should continue developing these ideas.  You may be interested in the
 >current drafts at the anon FTP site listed below.   Because much of this
 >work draws on the concepts in the papers by Schneier and Kelsey on related
 >topics, we're very interested in comments from Counterpane -- not least on
 >the intellectual property issues raised by the patent applications
 >mentioned in these papers.  If you could clarify the extent of the claims
 >in those applications that would be very helpful;  in particular, whether
 >there is any claim on the basic mechanism of chained MAC hashes.
I've spoken briefly to Bruce and John, and they're in favor of some sort of
liberal licensing in return for publicity.
I've forwarded your mail on to them, and see what they reply about the
specific claims. I don't know how much they want to tip their hands on
this, but the good news is that they aren't going to be grabby on it. I'm
not worried that something simple can be hashed out.
          Jon


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At 03:36 PM 11/23/99 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


>Hello -- we met at the Syslog Security BOF that I chaired at IETF46.   At
>this point the IESG has not approved the work for WG status, but we're told
>we should continue developing these ideas.  You may be interested in the
>current drafts at the anon FTP site listed below.   Because much of this
>work draws on the concepts in the papers by Schneier and Kelsey on related
>topics, we're very interested in comments from Counterpane -- not least on
>the intellectual property issues raised by the patent applications
>mentioned in these papers.  If you could clarify the extent of the claims
>in those applications that would be very helpful;  in particular, whether
>there is any claim on the basic mechanism of chained MAC hashes.

I've spoken briefly to Bruce and John, and they're in favor of some sort of liberal 
licensing in return for publicity. 

I've forwarded your mail on to them, and see what they reply about the specific 
claims. I don't know how much they want to tip their hands on this, but the good news 
is that they aren't going to be grabby on it. I'm not worried that something simple 
can be hashed out.

         Jon



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Jonathan D. Callas               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Director of Engineering          +1 (408) 556-0328 (voice)
Counterpane Internet Security    +1 (408) 556-0889 (fax)
3031 Tisch Way, Suite 100        PGP: 42C6 AD1A 98B7 84B4 349E  
San Jose CA 95128, USA                1528 EC0C ED80 D65E 3DFD