Hi,

I wrote a fairly long message, after your response to Anton, explaining
why I thought it would be a good thing, and clarifying how it should be
used. Did you not receive it?

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rainer Gerhards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: -protocol open issues
>
> Hi WG,
>
> I am coming back to the enterprise ID. Anton posted his opinion 5 days
> ago. Besides my "not sure" reply
> (http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/autoarc/msg01052.html), we got no
> response so
> far.
>
> Given the otherwise healthy discussion, I assume this is not
> a priority
> for the WG. So I will remove the enterprise ID for -protocol-03 if
> nobody speaks up (we can always get it back in at a later time). If
> someone sees good reasons to have it in, I would appreciate
> comments now
> ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Rainer
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anton Okmianski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:20 PM
> > To: Rainer Gerhards; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: -protocol open issues
> >
> > On issue #7 - enterprise ID:
> >
> > I am relatively neutral to this idea. But I am trying to
> > understand how
> > it will be used. What are the anticipated use cases for it?
> >
> > If we want to use it to differentiate messages from a
> specific vendor
> > because it may provide some additional formatting, then one
> could also
> > argue that we also need vendor version and potentially
> vendor product
> > and on and on.
> >
> > If we do provide enterprise ID, does it have to be required
> and in the
> > header as opposed to structured content?  Is filtering on
> vendor going
> > to be a common use-case?
> >
> > One area of ambiguity, I think, is a situation where components are
> > integrated into other applications.  Say component X from one
> > company is
> > integrated into product Y of another company.  Component X
> > already does
> > -protocol compliant syslog logging. Which enterprise ID
> should it use?
> > Should we leave this as nondeterministic or provide recommendations?
> >
> > Another area of potential ambiguity is relaying. Suppose a
> > relay gets a
> > bad message from a Cisco device and needs to fire a diagnostic error
> > message.  Does it use its own enterprise ID for this?  If so, my
> > collector which catches messages only for vendor Cisco won't
> > catch this,
> > right?
> >
> > Anton.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Rainer Gerhards
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:36 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: -protocol open issues
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi WG,
> > >
> > > I have updated my page of open issues in -protocol. I would
> > > appreciate if you could comment on the open issues. They can
> > > be found here:
> > >
> > http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/protocol.html
> >
> > Please note that these are just the issues which have
> definitely been
> > identified. Others are lurking around, so I will add them
> > when they are
> > discovered ("other things to do" beneath the issues may provide an
> > idea). I try to solve those issues before creating new ones, just so
> > that it is easier to keep track and stay focussed.
> >
> > Any feedback is highly appreciated.
> >
> > Rainer
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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