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> Subject: Re: [Syslog] Subject Name verification policy
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> I agree with Rainer that those fixes would make it good enough.
> 
> [Rainer]
> > It may also be useful (but not vital) to include a note that
> > transport-tls is a secure, but not a 100% reliable protocol 
> (because tcp
> > without an app-layer ack is unreliable). Lots of folks have the
> > misconception that just because tcp is used it is reliable. 
> For that,
> > one needs to implement rfc 3195. But, again, this is not a
important
> > enough point to hold publishing.
> > 
> 
> I worry that getting into the reliability discussion will 
> delay things. 
> The reliability discussion is more a tutorial about the 
> limitations of TCP 
> and is not syslog specific.  It comes up because syslog users 
> react very 
> negatively to the work "unreliable" in UDP and become concerned.
> 
[...]
> All of this discussion would really be advanced education on 
> the error 
> recovery capabilities of TCP and is not syslog specific in any way.
> 

I disagree. I think Rainer pointed out that the lack of an application
ACK limits reliability, and the lack of a syslog ACK is definitely
syslog specific. A small note to this effect in the security
considerations should be adequate.

David Harrington
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