Hi WG,

Chris has put some questions about RFC 3195 usage on the agenda for the
next IETF. In preparation for this, I am going to ask a question that I
know is very unpopular in the WG.

We have discussed the issue of a very-simple, non-BEEP based plain tcp
syslog several times on this list. The idea always has violently been
rejected.

However, the current status is that RFC 3195 is nicely standardized but
seldomly implemented and even less often deployed. Plain tcp syslog, on
the other hand, is not standardized but widely deployed. It is
implemented at least in:

- syslog-ng
- rsyslog
- Kiwi syslog daemon
- WinSyslog/MonitorWare Agent/EventReporter
- Cisco PIX

As of my experience, many syslog-ng installations use plain tcp syslog.
All of the implementations listed are interoperable. The list is most
probably not complete, these were just the products that came
immediately to my mind. The end user-base is also continously asking
about such a simple transport - this is probably why it is implemented
so often.

Given the obvious importance of this protocol, wouldn't it make sense to
at least document its observed behaviour, much as RFC 3164 documents UDP
based syslog observed behaviour? Such a document could also be useful to
document the security and (un)reliability issues coming along with the
"plain tcp" syslog. Eventually, this could even increase demand for more
reliable solutions like RFC 3195.

Feedback is appreciated.
Rainer Gerhards

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