Chris

I looked some more and am happy with it; the changes are thorough and
comprehensive.  I did wonder about the use of "device" which used to have a
technical meaning in early versions of the I-D and now I take not to have.
'Machine' is I think used in the same sense, of the box/stack in general without
any more specific meaning and that seems fine.

One minor nit grabbed me, an extra comma in s.1 in
"   reliable, and secure syslog extensions suffer from the lack of a"
where the comma is absent in the same sentence in the Abstract.

I take it we are still awaiting a further -tls for review before the three of
them go to the rfc-editor.

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: "tom.petch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris Lonvick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Syslog] FINAL review of draft-ietf-syslog-protocol


> Chris
>
> I have looked at this and will look at it again in more depth next week.  Some
> of the new terminology  in s.3 is unfamiliar to me and, while the end result
is
> not as complex as say RFC3411, it is still going to take a while for me to
grasp
> (by inference) the role of eg parser and formatter, the (redefined) sender and
> receiver, and to work out which is responsible for which bits on the wire and
> see if the usage hangs together.  The changes are more extensive than I
> anticipated.  Probably, they much improve the precision but, at first sight, I
> am less certain about the increase in clarity.
>
> Tom Petch
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Lonvick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:45 PM
> Subject: [Syslog] FINAL review of draft-ietf-syslog-protocol
>
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > David and I would like to hand off this final version to Sam for
> > publication by Friday.  I have performed an initial review and feel that
> > the changes address the IETF Last Call items.
> >
> > The changes requested from the IETF Last Call were:
> >
> > Item 1) Severity Range - The range of the Severity is not bound.  The WG
> > decided that it needs to be bound in the range of 0 to 7 inclusive.
> >
> > Item 2) Language Tags - BCP47 (RFC 4646) is the IETF standard for language
> > tags.  The document needs to be compliant with this standard.  Section
> > 7.3.3 specifies the use of ISO 639 (which was the only reference available
> > at the time we discussed languages in the mailing list.)  Sam asked that
> > we need to change the language tags to BCP47 to justify our decision. I've
> > found no compelling reason to continue to use the ISO 639 tags.  We need
> > to change that paragraph to state that BCP47 language tags will be used.
> > The current "MAY" in Section 7.3.3 should still be used.
> >
> > Item 3 - Deadlocks - There was a lengthy discussion about using a reliable
> > delivery mechanism for syslog and how certain circumstances could cause
> > the loss of messages.  (I personally felt it was not addressing any
> > normative text in the document.)  A note about "deadlocks" in Section 8.5
> > has been requested by Sam.  This will need to be short.
> >
> > Item 4 - IANA - We should review the document to see if there are any IANA
> > registry values that may be revised by IETF Consensus rather than
> > Standards Actions.  I'll make a review and let you know if I find
> > anything.
> >
> > Item 5 - Definitions - The definitions of "sender" "receiver" "relay",
> > "originator" and "collector" need to be tightened up.  They are somewhat
> > inconsistent now and are required by the -device-mib document.
> >
> >
> > You may view the differences between -19 and -20 here:
> >    http://tools.ietf.org/wg/syslog/
> > Click on "draft-ietf-syslog-protocol" and select your method of seeing the
> > diffs from -19.
> >
> > Please submit any comments you have to the WG that concern how Rainer
> > addressed these issues in this document.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> >
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