On 9/30/04 12:06 PM, "Michael Juneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is no need to increase the publicity for such places. They should be kept in relative stealth, and be findable for people who search long enough.
I will certainly adhere to the rules you gentlemen have set forth. I fully understand the outrageously litigious society that America has become. And some wonder why I've lived outside the US for 10 years!
Nevertheless, I am indebted to those (not affiliated with this list) who have assisted me in finding these otherwise "impossible to find on your own" Macintosh resources. It was my hope that signing up for this "not well known" System 6 list my further my level of information on old software. Not to find warez boards or "illicit activities," but rather to find out how to restore some of the paid software I've lost in the past, and also bring back into remembrance the usefulness of all my existing old apps.
But since it would be wrong for me to become a legal stumblingblock for others, my public comments on this topic shall fade quietly into the darkness, never to surface again...
Hi
Many things are available on the net we all use, due to the age of the software in real years let alone computer years we are bound to find some software hard to find. Whether this need drives us to use mailing lists, newsgroups, ftp, irc, p2p, hl or the many other resources at hand, it will, for most of us, be after a legitimate search.
In the past on other lists suggestions like the one that started this thread are met by silence, as they should be. If the server was public, no l/p and if everyone interested knew what client the url required by looking at it maybe it would have been.
Hotline was made on a Mac for mac users and still supports 68k clients. There are many good mac sites on hotline, please dont paint the users as all warez and porn freaks as its not the case. There are many interest servers much in the same way there are good newsgroups in amongst a sea of rubbish.
While I can see the need for descrection I cant see teams of lawyers tracking down a dyndns.org hotline site for abondonware. No monitry value, no longer supported, obsolete, abandonware. It makes me uneasy to think we may have spies amongst us who would waste time and money to ask a site to close or more likely move.
Its not uncommon for websites to vanish after links are posted on a lem-list, if thats because of natural death, the link in a email from the list server to subscribed people, or the link showing up in the web accessed achieve that can haunt posters by anyone not subbed to the list - I dont know. Thankfully our email addresses are no longer attached, posted links should only be accessed by subscribed members to the web interface. To say "may never surface again" may not be the case. ;) Talk about a clueless setup.
I'm a bit confused, if I say http://mac.the-underdogs.org/ is a good resource as its mentioned often, has been up for years and has a very public disclaimer and active content policy while being a very good resource for those of us who have an interest - am I doing the wrong thing? Nope.
Now if the link wasn't posted how would anyone find the server? Here, find "SuperPaint" http://hotline.tracker-tracker.com/public/
Not there unless your Japanese. So again I ask how would one find the server? A off list email, great for one person and useless to the rest of us. We need to add these files to our private libraries so they are not as dead as the dodo or as hard to find and can help each other and our old macs as a community.
We aren't talking about last years OSX app's or the apps from 10 years ago, we aren't discussing a copyright crime as the company that made the software is dead while the company that bought it has discontinued it and no longer keep any achieve. There's plenty of other things to keep lawyers busy and rightly so.
Thank you for the link James, I am grateful. This particular thread is rubbish, non-productive and self defeating. Just look at how the subject is named, could you hang a bigger sign up? Gee whiz.
I wont go into why web based sites dissappear and a hl site will remain, it pretty easy to figure if you bothered looking.
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