Ryan,

Thanks very much for the exposition.  I shall retain
it.

Mel


--- Ryan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  From the TechTool Lite 3.0.4 help:
> 
> > Pronounced "pea-ram," the parameter RAM is a
> non-volatile RAM chip 
> > residing on your Macintosh motherboard. This
> device holds special 
> > parameters independent of the System or hard
> drive. Some of these 
> > settings include mouse speed and designated
> startup device. This 
> > information is stored in the standard area of PRAM
> (the high 128 
> > bytes). Below the upper 128 bytes is an area of
> PRAM that contains 
> > more critical settings like boot services,
> manufacture date and hours 
> > of use (mandate information), and other reserved
> areas used by the 
> > System Software.
> >
> > The traditional method of zapping the PRAM -
> holding the command, 
> > option, P and R keys - only clears the upper bytes
> of RAM where 
> > problems may not reside. Historically, the only
> way to correct lower 
> > PRAM problems was to open up the computer and
> momentarily remove the 
> > PRAM battery. This would clear all of the PRAM
> memory allowing the Mac 
> > ROM to replace the data with default settings.
> >
> > TechTool Lite will clear ALL of PRAM without the
> need to disassemble 
> > the computer. The program also offers the ability
> to save the PRAM 
> > data before it is cleared and the ability to
> restore this information 
> > should the need arise. TechTool Lite also allows
> you to test the 
> > physical memory that comprises the PRAM.
> 
> TechTool Lite also has a "restore mandate" function:
> 
> > This button allows you to restore the Mandate
> information (manufacture 
> > date & hours of use) to the PRAM chip without the
> need to restore the 
> > entire original contents of the PRAM chip.
> Pressing this button will 
> > prompt you for a previously saved PRAM file from
> which to restore the 
> > mandate information. This button will be grayed
> out if your computer 
> > does not maintain Mandate information (newer
> Macintosh models do not).
> 
> 
> 
> On 29.12.2004, at 14:14, Mel wrote:
> 
> > Among the various things that I have discovered
> that
> > exists in those mysterious unaccesible bytes are
> the
> > numbers of hours minutes and I believe seconds
> that
> > the mac has been switched on, at least for the
> older
> > macs.  It is my understanding that Tech Tools Lite
> not
> > only can fix a corrupted PRAM but can also store a
> > snapshot of a working pram and allow yuo to
> restore
> > selectively thus preserving the time on records.
> >
> > I am new at this and in time when (if) I discover
> what
> > is in the PRAM, I shall publish that information.
> >
> > Maybe APPLE can furnish that information by simply
> > asking.
> >
> > Mel
> > --- martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hope you get the results you want, Mel!
> >>
> >> I'm curious; what information might be stored in
> >> those additional 192 bytes?
> >> Or, why do you want to access/wipe the entire
> PRAM
> >> allocation?
> >>
> >> Just wondering what undocumented goodies might
> lurk
> >> there  ...   : )
> >>
> >> m
> >> (happily running System 6.0.8 on a venerable
> SE/30)
> >>
> >>
> >>> TechTool Lite 3.0.4 can allegedly do that.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/5995
> >>>
> >>> On 24.12.2004, at 19:51, Mel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I need a version of TechTool that will allo9w
> me
> >> to be
> >>>> able to access all of PRAM's 256 bytes, not
> just
> >> the
> >>>> 64 bytes that can be reset using the four keys
> on
> >>>> start up: command-option-P-R, but need to
> access
> >> and
> >>>> reset the additional 192 bytes that cannot be
> >> accessed
> >>>> upon start up.
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