On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 02:32:35PM +0200, Jan Janssen wrote: > <varlistentry> > - <term><option>-b</option></term> > - <term><option>--this-boot</option></term> > - > - <listitem><para>Show data only from > - current boot. This will add a match > - for <literal>_BOOT_ID=</literal> for > - the current boot ID of the > - kernel.</para></listitem> > + <term><option>-b > <optional><replaceable>ID</replaceable></optional></option></term> > + > <term><option>--boot=<optional><replaceable>ID</replaceable></optional></option></term> > + > + <listitem><para>Show messages from specified > + boot <replaceable>ID</replaceable>. This will > + add a match for > <literal>_BOOT_ID=</literal>.</para> > + > + <para>The argument is a 128 bit ID given in > + short or UUID form and optionally followed by > + <literal>:n</literal> which identifies the > nth > + boot relative to the boot ID given to the > left > + of <literal>:</literal>. Supplying a negative > + value will look for a past boot and a > positive > + value for a future boot. The boot IDs are > + searched for in chronological order.</para> > + > + <para>If no number is provided after > + <literal>:</literal>, <literal>-1</literal> > is > + assumed. A value of 0 is valid and > equivalent to > + omitting <literal>:0</literal>. The boot ID > may > + be omitted if <literal>:</literal> is > provided, > + which will assume the current boot ID as the > + reference.</para> > + > + <para>For example, if > <literal>962e0810b0c44735a6a70e7132996502</literal> > + were the ID of the current boot, the > following > + are all equivalent: > + > <option>962e0810b0c44735a6a70e7132996502</option>, > + > <option>962e0810-b0c4-4735-a6a7-0e7132996502</option>, > + <option>:0</option>, > + > <option>962e0810b0c44735a6a70e7132996502:0</option>, > + > <option>962e0810-b0c4-4735-a6a7-0e7132996502:0</option>. > + Additionally, if > <literal>04089164-6fb3-4826-a7d1-207b11a02169</literal> > + were the previous boot ID the following are > equivalent: > + > <option>040891646fb34826a7d1207b11a02169</option>, > + > <option>04089164-6fb3-4826-a7d1-207b11a02169</option>, > + <option>:-1</option>, <option>:</option>, > + > <option>962e0810b0c44735a6a70e7132996502:-1</option>, > + > <option>962e0810-b0c4-4735-a6a7-0e7132996502:-1</option>.
> + <para>Show all kernel logs from last boot:</para> > + > + <programlisting>journalctl -k -b :</programlisting> > + Hm, I somehow don't find this user interface convincing... For me, the most common usecases are: 1 (by far) - show current boot 2 (occasionally) - show previous boot I guess that if I had the ability to show next-previous, next-next-previous, ..., boots, I would sometimes use that. But I think we should foremost make the two usecases above easy. IMHO, the argument to --boot should be optional, and should default to "current boot". This way we keep also compatibility with current interface. Also, I don't see why we would need to allow boot id's with dashes: we don't allow that currently, and the only likely source of a boot id is the user using the mouse to copy the boot id from journalctl output, so there's little point. With dashes and colons out of the way, I'd propose: -0 or 0 or nothing to refer to current boot, -1 to refer to previous boot, and so on, 1 to refer to first boot ever [1, 2], 2 to the second boot, etc. And <bootid> to refer to boot <bootid>, <bootid>-0 and <bootid>+0 to refer to <bootid>, <bootid>-1, <bootid>-2, to refer to earlier boots, and <bootid>+1, <bootid>+2 to refer to later boots. Zbyszek [1] ...well, ever means since the beginning of logs here :) [1] Should boots since installation be numbered from 0 or 1? I kind of like numbering them from 0, but the scheme I outlined above means that we have consistent meaning for all numbers modulo number of boots, with current boot being 0. _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel