'Twas brillig, and Tom Horsley at 24/01/14 15:44 did gyre and gimble:
>> However, something like that can never be the default, we need to give
>> services the chance to shut down cleanly and in the right order.
> 
> I didn't ask for any change to any default, I just asked for
> users to be able to make the shutdown process proceed when
> they have more information than systemd has about the chances
> of success of some random stop job.
> 
> Without that, what you *will* get is people pulling the
> power plug which has a vastly greater chance of screwing up
> the system than not waiting for a single stop job.

Perhaps just displaying the timeout would be useful here.

For me personally, the NFS timeout is a proper pain the backside. A
little more cleverness there would be appreciated. e.g. can we not just
do lazy umounts by default for NFS (or just e.g. a 5s timeout max on the
regular NFS umount)? Perhaps this isn't possible in the umount loop - or
at least not possible cleanly...

Col



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