On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Karel Zak <k...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:06:19AM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Dec 21, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Kay Sievers <k...@vrfy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Trimming should be the job of the filesystem, not for a nasty cron
>> >> job. We do not want to support legacy filesystems with upstream
>> >> shipped systemd units.
>> >>
>> >> Also, util-linux must not ship such policy, it's a collection of
>> >> tools, not a system policy carry-out.
>> >
>> > Well it's the job of the file system, the device mapper, the block layer, 
>> > the ATA driver, the controller and then the drive. And at the bottom of 
>> > this stack, the drive specification, is flawed. We're not going to see the 
>> > file systems doing this in ideal fashion, none of them set discard by 
>> > default, until everything below is properly enabling asynchronous queued 
>> > TRIM.
>> >
>> > So the question is whether it makes sense to design a work around for what 
>> > amount to legacy devices (even though they are still being bought and sold 
>> > today), or entirely ignore this (automatic) optimization for the life of 
>> > the devices and leave it up to the user to set such things.
>> >
>> >> We need to support fsck because it's needed for integrity and using
>> >> filesystems that need, but running trim is just an optimization. We do
>> >> not want the bugs for these filesystems triggered by the systemd
>> >> package.
>> >
>> > It seems systemd now parses fstab and can second guess its contents, e.g. 
>> > it will ignore fs_passno for Btrfs, so even if it's a non-zero value, 
>> > systemd doesn't cause fsck to go looking for an fsck.btrfs.
>> >
>> > But it does for xfs, which likewise doesn't need fsck at all.
>>
>> We don't actually check for btrfs, but simply skip any checking when
>> /sbin/fsck.<fstype> does not exist.
>>
>> > I don't know if these optimizations really belong in systemd or rather in 
>> > a smarter fsck to keep a list of file systems that do and don't need fsck 
>> > performed on them prior to remount as rw.
>>
>> I'd argue that the systemd behavior of ignoring missing helpers should
>> just be moved to fsck...
>
> OK, I have improved fsck, so it does not print any error message if
> fsck.<type> does not exist and the filesystem type is not in "really
> wanted" set of the filesystems (the set was defined many years ago by
> Ted and it's mostly about extN;-).
>
> # blkid -s TYPE /dev/sdb
> /dev/sdb: TYPE="btrfs"
>
> # fsck /dev/sdb; echo $?
> fsck from util-linux 2.24.184-663b-dirty
> 0

Thanks!

Cheers,

Tom
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