There are. You have socket-activated services, and you have services that
bind to 0.0.0.0 or ::, and you have services that make use of IP_FREEBIND
to avoid having to wait for addresses to be assigned...

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Mantas Mikulėnas <[email protected]>
On Jun 8, 2014 2:27 AM, "Leonid Isaev" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 01:07:38AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 01:07:38 +0200
> > From: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <[email protected]>
> > To: Michael Biebl <[email protected]>
> > Cc: systemd Mailing List <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Add a network-pre.target to avoid
> >  firewall leaks
> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14)
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 12:55:55AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > Could you elaborate why Before=network.target is too late?
> > Because then network setup races with e.g. iptables setup. Depending
> > on the timing, a window in which the network has been set up, but
> > the firewall is not yet in place.
>
> But by the time network.target is reached there are no listening services
> yet,
> are there? So, why would one need a firewall?
>
> Thanks,
> Leonid.
>
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