On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:44 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 09/22/2014 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > >> On 09/22/2014 11:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> Am 22.09.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > >>>> On 09/22/2014 09:23 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>>>> Am 22.09.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > >>>>>> The reason for increased log entries in the journal is that more >>>>>> things >>>>>> are happening now since this is what happening when a job is run. > >>>>> that don't change the fact that a user not acting as >>>>> systemd-developer and not debugging his system don't >>>>> need that flood > >>>> I guess we have different meaning of message flood > >>> again: we talk about rsyslog, like it or not > >> >> Then file a bug report against rsyslog and provide a patch which fixes >> the default log filtering in Fedora to your expectation but leave >> systemd out of it. > > wow - in any other case the systemd developers saying that > they don't workround things because problems has to be > solved at the root-cause - practice what you preach and > make the log-verbosility configureable! > > > Serves no purpose whatsoever doing that. > > > * rsyslog is *not* responsible for the message flood produced by systemd > > > No but it is responsible for the filtering <-- of log messages. > > * systemd is the one producing it without prefixes > > > This is simply untrue as "journalctl -o export" will show you. > > I suggest you stop blaming systemd for your own administrative incompetence > and broken implementation of rsyslog and syslog-ng in Fedora
Please let's not stoop to this level of name-calling. I haven't followed this debate in detail, so I don't know how this should be solved, but it seems fair to say that Harald's experience is suboptimal, so let's focus on making constructive suggestions for how journald/rsyslog or the local/distro config could be improved, rather than who is to blame. Anyway, I think this is decidedly off-topic for this thread, so please move this elsewhere. Cheers, Tom > ( I tried to > get it fixed before we defaulted to journal YES IT WAS BROKEN BEFORE AND > STILL IS but was not allowed to do so thank those Red Hatters in the > governing body's of Fedora ( FESCO/FPC ) for it's brokeness ) and write an > rsyslog template suited for your environment which will filter things to > your liking and expectation or better yet complain to those FESCO/FPC > members since they need to learn a hard lesson of accepting responsibility > for their own actions in the distribution. > > You can find how to write an rsyslog template in the upstream rsyslog > documentation using it's powerful filtering capabilities and by looking at > for example the one spice-vdagentd /etc/rsyslog.d/spice-vdagentd.conf in > Fedora. > > JBG > > _______________________________________________ > systemd-devel mailing list > systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel > _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
