On 21/10/14 09:37, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > In my long years of using Debian and also doing some packages for it in the > last years I never saw that any introduced changed caused a serious "we may > need to fork" like announcement
I've seen several instances of Debian people *actually* forking it, and that isn't one of them (at least, not yet). There are currently 63 derivatives listed on <https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census>, variously booted via all the major init systems, and there are more that are not listed on that page. Perhaps the most prominent example is Ubuntu, which basically started as a fork that would iterate faster and focus on ease-of-use, wandered off into various subsequent goals from there, and incidentally funded development of a new init system along the way. Another interesting derivative is Tanglu, which is desktop-focused and has adopted systemd much more aggressively than Debian. Fundamentally, what needs to happen, if people want a version of Debian that boots with LSB/sysvinit scripts to remain available indefinitely, is for someone to do the work. That is all. They can do the work in Debian or in a fork, whichever, but if the work is not done, the goal will not be achieved. At the moment, I'm seeing a lot of noise, and a lot of suggestions that the people who do the work should be coerced into doing different work (which is unlikely to succeed in a volunteer project), but a relatively small amount of actual software development or maintenance. S _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
