Am 23.12.2015 um 23:08 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:


On 12/23/2015 08:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 23.12.2015 um 21:12 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
On 12/23/2015 07:30 PM, Alex Crawford wrote:
I like this model and I'm not sure how I would solve this if
EnvironmentFile
didn't exist.

The usual underlying cause of usage of Environment or EnvironmentFile in
type units is more or less always due to the fact that the
daemon/service cannot read configuration file on startup thus the answer
is you would use a daemon that was written in a such manner it could
read configuration file, generate that file and get rid of the extra
administrator step of having administrators create and use drop-in's or
am I missing something?

and what's the difference between a config file or "EnvironmentFile"
besides you like the one for whatever reason more while both are
config files?

Environment entry's or files containing environment entries are not
configuration files.

Not by a mile even from a security perspective.

really?

you are not aware that systemd filters out existing env-vars except EnvironmentFile / Environment

Why would you even think that and FYI environment variables are still
declared somewhere in a file so why not just create a config file which
is read within the processes and be on the safe side?

wrong question

why should i change anything in *my* configuartion *because* you don't like it?

Sorry I dont grok how you come to the conclusion that both of these are
config files, treated the same or even what people think they are
gaining something using environment entry's that reside in a file over
configuration files in the first place

well, there are enough applications which can be used not only running as service just by using CLI params, using them the same way as a service where it makes sense is way better than have a systemwide and in doubt conflicting config file

the main question is: who are you to educate the world while nobody is forcing you to use "EnvironmentFile" - do what you want in your way and just accept that others make their own decisions because they are not yours

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