Worse. The tests may have been random, but they were only done during spring training and the players knew when they were going to be tested. Players also knew that they would remain anonymous even with a failed test - this first time. With no penalties in place for a first failure, who cares if they are caught or not. Even after the first test - what is the punishment - TREATMENT? MLB is a joke and the constant work stoppages are just one problem. The balls may be juiced, but no more so than the players!
Mark Ward -----Original Message----- From: edndana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:20 AM To: "Athletics" Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing Spur Baseball to Set Tougher Rules Malmo - Sorry I wasn't more clear. Without knowing what they did, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of manipulation, but that wasn't my main point. I simply wonder if the MLB "random" testing (let alone the penalties) is up to the admittedly still inadequate standards of track & field. - Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing Spur Baseball to Set Tougher Rules > I misunderstood. I thought you were implying that the test results were somehow manipulated. > > malmo > > > > From: "edndana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/11/14 Fri PM 12:00:46 CST > > To: "\"Athletics\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing Spur Baseball to Set Tougher Rules > > > > Well, certainly the IAAF would argue that USATF's past methods for dealing > > with positive tests has resulted in a different outcome than we would have > > seen if the IAAF was doing the testing. Now perhaps the specific actions of > > the labs were not at issue, but if the MLB program is being "administered" > > by MLB rather than by a more independent entity, then that raises more > > questions about exactly how the tests were conducted - notification, > > specific procedures, etc. > > > > - Ed Parrot > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:34 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing > > Spur Baseball to Set Tougher Rules > > > > > > > How has history shown that "the entity doing the testing can have an > > > impact on the outcome.?" > > > > > > malmo > > > > > > > > From: "edndana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: 2003/11/14 Fri AM 11:13:00 CST > > > > To: "\"Athletics\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing > > Spur Baseball to Set Tougher Rules > > > > > > > > Who does the MLB testing? USADA? Not to suggest any great conspiracy, > > but > > > > history has certainly shown that the entity doing the testing can have > > an > > > > impact on the outcome. > > > > > > > > - Ed > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Michael Bartolina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:26 AM > > > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Results of Steroid Testing > > Spur > > > > Baseball to Set Tougher Rules > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7% of 1438 athletes tested is 100 athletes! They had > > > > > 100 positives and they were not trying to catch > > > > > anyone! Imagine how many guys have used in the past > > > > > and just happened to be clean for the test! I feel > > > > > unable to use any other punctuation than !!!!!!!!'s > > > > > > > > > > It is not that I am surprised by their findings, it is > > > > > just that I can't believe they would be so arrogant > > > > > and foolish as to publish them! > > > > > > > > > > 100 positives! 100 positives! 100 positives! > > > > > That averages out to 3 or 4 positives per team. > > > > > > > > > > For once I am not willing to let this kind of > > > > > irresponsibility slide. Contact your local sports > > > > > writer. Flood espn.com and si.com with emails. > > > > > Embarrass MLB and NFL and NBA into submission. If > > > > > Ralph Wiley has the balls to suggest that we should > > > > > stay home from the Olympics, then he must stand up to > > > > > other professional sports as well. This is one > > > > > occasion where they have left themselves wide open and > > > > > we must act to make a difference. > > > > > > > > > > I do not want to have the steroid debate with my 14 > > > > > son when he comes home from baseball practice and says > > > > > he wants to be just like Barry. > > > > > > > > > > Mike Bartolina > > > > > Barto > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
