I don't know what he said in "Run to the Top" or any other place or time in
his life, but in "Running the Lydiard Way" he states that a low-2:08 is the
physiological limit for man on a loop-course without an aiding wind.

And this was written in 1978.  He is close to correct in a way though.

/Brian



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Derderian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Lydiard's prophecy on marathon record


Not many people now would wed themselves to an absolute prediction but
Lydiard did. About the 2:05:42, I think he would say, "Wow, I was wrong."
That's one of the reason's he is a legend. Those who qualify their
statements will never become legends.
Lydiard was my unofficial coach when I was in high school near Boston. My
official track coach was the football coach who knew nothing about training
for track. But I had a pen pal in New Zealand who ran and sent me his
workouts which I did. The workouts came down a few steps from Lydiard. I
matched the workouts of my pen pal and ran the same times as he did, then I
did more and ran a faster time than he did, but return mail always showed
that while the mails crossed he had gone faster yet.  The only trouble I had
was doing the 20 mile run on Sundays through paddocks and hills. I had no
idea what a paddocks was.
Tom D.

> > "During a recent office visit, (legendary New Zealand coach Arthur)
Lydiard
> > opined that 2:06 is the absolute limit for the marathon as it is
> > physiologically impossible to run faster."
> >
> > Wonder what Lydiard (or Bert) thinks of the impossible (2:05:42) Mr.
> > Khannouchi.
> > >>
>
> No, Lydiard would probably say "...give or take 18 seconds..."
>
> JT

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