They have adjusted the chip times from yesterday to today. The 42nd place
finisher, for example, had a 25 second differential yesterday and now it is 5
seconds. The chip time has been increased.
Regards,
Martin

"Post, Marty" wrote:

> I might have missed some of the follow-up conversation on this but I do not
> see where you are getting this information from.
>
> I am looking at a set of results from the press room and the following is a
> sample of the times:
>
> Place/Name/Chip Time/Gun Time
>
> 11. Ben Kimondiu/2:13:55/2:13:57
> 12. Kyle Baker/2:14:12/2:14:13
> 13. Clint Verran/2:14:16/2:14:17
> 14. Keith Dowling/2:14:21/2:14:22
> 15. Ryan Shay/2:14:29/2:14:30
> 16. Peter De La Cerda/2:14:40/2:14:41
> 17. Kentaro Ito/2:14:40/2:14:41
> 18. Josh Cox/2:15:00/2:15:01
> 19. Ian Syster/2:16:02/2:16:04
> 20. Abdelah Behar/2:16:12/2:16:14
>
> Weldon Johnson, the women's pace-setter started well behind the start line
> and had chip/gun times of 2:17:50 and 2:18:10. The next guy with a bigger
> discrepancy was the 35th finisher
>
> The top 10 women had identical chip/gun times; after that a series of 2-3
> second differences appears.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: t-and-f: chip vs. gun times at Chicago
>
> Looking at the Chicago results, virtually every person outside the top ten,
> including names like Kimondiu, de la Cerda, Dowling, Cox, and Shay, had gun
> times that were 20-25 seconds slower than their chip times.
>
> I've seen pictures of the Boston start, and heard similar stories from New
> York, with the elite getting a substantial buffer zone on the masses. But do
> even sub-2:15 guys now count as the masses and have to give up what appears
> to
> be, based on the time involved, upwards of 100 meters?  I can't imagine any
> race actually has a buffer zone that size - that's bigger than a city block
> in
> most downtowns. What's going on here?
>
> Another question: are the split times listed chip times? Kimondiu's half-way
> split (1:02:10) is faster than the top finishers by almost exactly the
> difference between his gun- and chip times at the finish.  My interpretation
> is that he made up the 21-second gap from the start and was running with the
> leaders at halfway, but maybe I should read all the reports for myself.
>
> david





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