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membership enclosure.
Document Number: T13/e01124r0
Date: 20 Jun 2001
Reply to: Pete McLean
To: Membership of T13
From: Mark Evans, Secretary of T13, and Pete McLean, Chair of T13
Subject: Minutes of 29th T13 Working Group and Plenary Meetings at
Irvine, CA
June 19 - June 20, 2001
Agenda
1 Opening remarks 3
2 Approval of agenda 3
3 Membership and attendance 3
3.1 Membership 3
3.2 Fees 3
3.3 Attendance 4
4 Approval of the minutes from the previous T13 plenary meeting
(e0118r0) 4
5 Document distribution 4
6 Review of previous action items 5
7 Old business 5
7.1 Status for EDD, project 1386-D (NCITS 347-2001) 5
7.2 Status of Address Offset Feature Technical Report, project
1407-DT (NCITS TR-27) 5
7.3 ATA/ATAPI-6 project 1410-D 5
7.3.1 Audio/Visual Model (d99135r5) [Bulik] 5
7.3.2 Single device configurations ( ) [McFerrin] 5
7.3.3 INTRQ assertion, negation, release, pull-up
(e01119r0) [Barras] 5
7.3.4 Proposal for a General Purpose Feature Set
(e00138r4) [Puri] 6
7.3.5 Review of the draft standard 6
7.3.6 Schedule Review 6
7.4 EDD - 2 project 1484-D (d1484r0) [Stevens] 6
7.4.1 EDD raid option ROM proposal (e01125r0) [Stevens]
6
7.4.2 Packet sending services for EDD (e00143r1) [Stevens]
6
7.4.3 Draft review (d1484r0) [Stevens] 7
7.5 ATA/ATAPI Host Adapters project 1510-D 7
7.5.1 Draft review (d1510r0) [Goodfellow] 7
7.6 Proposal for command integrity checking (e00160r0) [McLean]
7
7.7 Consolidated ATAPI PACKET command set (e00150r0)
[Goodfellow] 7
7.8 Extended cable lengths (e00151r1) [Goodfellow] 7
7.9 Larger sector size ( ) [Colegrove] 7
7.10 Errata for ATA/ATAPI-5 (e01122r0) [McLean] 7
7.11 ATA/ATAPI-7 project 8
7.11.1 Project proposal (e01116r0) [McLean] 8
7.12 T13 Reflector, FTP, and Web Site Setup 9
7.13 Open issues list 9
8 New Business 9
8.1 FLUSH CACHE command modification proposal (e01126r0)
[Noblitt] 9
8.2 Correction to SET MAX ADDRESS command 9
8.3 Queuing enhancements 9
9 Liaison Reports 9
9.1 T10 9
9.2 SFF 9
9.3 IDEMA 10
10 Call for Patents 10
10.1 Convolve 10
11 Review of Action Items 10
12 Meeting Schedule 11
12.1 Authorization of ad hoc working groups 11
12.2 Long term meeting schedule 11
13 Adjournment 11
Results of the Meeting
1. Opening remarks
Pete McLean, the T13 Chairman, called the meeting to order at 10:00 A.M. on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001. Pete thanked Curtis Stevens of Phoenix Technologies
for hosting the meeting.
As is customary, the people in attendance introduced themselves, and a copy
of the attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda were made
available to those in attendance.
The Chairman briefly reviewed the meeting rules: T13 is a Technical
Committee of NCITS and operates under NCITS rules. Anyone with interest in
the work of the committee is free to attend and take part in discussions.
However, motions and votes are limited to member organizations, one vote per
member organization. In addition, the committee complies with NCITS
antitrust guidelines. As a result discussions about unannounced products,
prices, volumes, vendor relations, etc., are prohibited. The Chairman noted
that a set of Policies and Procedures for NCITS are available at the
www.ncits.org site under the standing documents category as SD-2. The
committee is operating under these revised policies and procedures augmented
by the T13 procedures at the T13 web site www.t13.org.
2. Approval of agenda
The agenda as reflected in these minutes was approved unanimously.
3. Membership and attendance
The Chairman reviewed the rules for membership and attendance:
1) Membership
An individual from an organization new to T13 must attend at least one T13
plenary meeting as an Advisory Member before requesting voting membership.
After that meeting, the representative must request membership from the T13
chair stating expertise and material interest in the scope of the committee
and pay required fees to NCITS. Voting privileges begin upon receipt by the
NCITS Secretariat of applicable fees for the membership year.
2) Fees
Current NCITS memberships fees for Observer, Principal, or additional
Alternate are 800.00 USD (the First Alternate is free with a Principal
membership). A T13 subscription is available to Principal, Alternate, or
Observer Members at a fee of 800.00 USD.
Mailings of committee documents are available to any interested party after
each plenary meeting. The cost for mailings for one year is 300.00 USD for
mailing in the USA and for 400.00 USD for mailing to a location outside of
the USA.
Persons with questions or requests regarding membership fees and/or
subscriptions for mailings should contact Monica Vago, Manager, ITI
Standards Operations, at 202-626-5739, send a fax to her at 202-638-4922, or
contact her by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Attendance
In addition to payment of fees, there are also minimum attendance
requirements to maintain voting membership status on T13. A representative
from a member organization must attend two of every three meetings and vote
on at least every other letter ballot. If a member organization fails to
have a representative in attendance at two of the last three T13 meetings or
vote on every other letter ballot, they are warned that failing to attend
the next T13 meeting or to vote on the next letter ballot will result in
their membership being terminated.
Attendance at a working group meeting does not affect membership status in
T13.
The following members were in jeopardy due to lack of attendance:
CMD Technology
ST Microelectronics
No members were terminated due to lack of attendance:
The following organizations requested membership and paid NCITS fees:
Xetron
Sandisk
In addition, Texas Instruments has paid membership fees. Since Texas
Instruments did not attend the meeting they did not become voting members.
The T13 membership during the meeting was 24 organizations (changed from 22
organizations at the last meeting).
No company requested new membership following the adjournment of the
meeting. T13 membership following the meeting was 24 members.
The following individuals were in attendance:
Phil Gardner Absolute Software Mary Morgan Morgan Link
Ron Roberts Adaptec Tony Goodfellow Pacific Digital
Larry Barras Apple Don Doan Pacific Digital
Brian Dixon CMD Bill McFerrin Philips
Raymond Liu CMD Curtis Stevens Phoenix
Sumit Puri Fujitsu Greg Elkins Qlogic
Seiichi Domyo Hitachi Bob Chang Sandisk
Dan Colegrove IBM Marc Noblitt Seagate
Tim Bradshaw Iomega Bruce Perens Software in the Public Interest
Andre Hedrick Linux ATA Dev Emmanuel Coudray ST Micro
Mark Evans Maxtor AaronWilson ST Micro
Pete McLean Maxtor Tasuku Kasebayashi Toshiba
4. Approval of the minutes from the previous T13 plenary meeting
(e0118r0)
The minutes from the previous meeting, e01118r0, were approved unanimously.
5. Document distribution
The following documents were distributed:
Agenda and document directory
Meeting announcement for August
e01116r0 Project proposal for ATA/ATAPI-7
e01122r0 Errata for ATA/ATAPI-5
e00138r4 Proposal for a General Purpose Logging feature set
e01125r0 EDD raid option ROM proposal
e01127r0 Packet sending services for EDD
e00151r1 80-conductor cable length extension
In addition diskettes were passed around with soft copies of the above
documents.
6. Review of previous action items
7. Folks from device vendors are to check on how power-on hours timers
are maintained and/or incremented - particularly in regard to Sleep and
other power saving modes - completed. This item was closed after brief
discussion.
8. Dan Colegrove agreed to speak with IBM's representative to CFA in
order to get their input on changes that have been made to their command set
in the draft standard during the obsolescing of CHS addressing - completed.
Dan spoke with their representative and reported that the CFA folks
understood that they would have to stay in touch with any changes made by
T13 to standards documents, and that they would have to include any
additional clarifications in their documents.
9. Pete McLean is to construct an Errata for ATA/ATAPI-5 for letter
ballot that includes the issues from the list as updated at this meeting and
the issue with word 126 as identified by Tim Bradshaw in e01117 - completed.
This will be covered in agenda item 7.10.
10. Pete McLean agreed to include the text of agendae and minutes in the
body of postings to the reflector - completed.
11. Old business
1) Status for EDD, project 1386-D (NCITS 347-2001)
EDD has been published as ANSI NCITS 347-2001. As this is now a completed
project, this item will be removed from future agendae.
2) Status of Address Offset Feature Technical Report, project 1407-DT
(NCITS TR-27)
Address Offset Feature Technical Report has been published as NCITS
TR-27:2001. As this is now a completed project, this item will be removed
from future agendae.
3) ATA/ATAPI-6 project 1410-D
i. Audio/Visual Model (d99135r5) [Bulik]
No one from WD was in attendance during the meeting. Dan Colegrove
volunteered to speak with Darrin Bulik, and, if WD is unable or does not
wish to carry on with editing this document, Dan would also volunteer to
assume responsibility for editing the document.
ii. Single device configurations ( ) [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that there had been no input from Jeff Wolford of
Compaq. Bill said that he favored that the proposal from Apple that had
been included in ATA/ATAPI-6 be removed. This will be discussed further at
the next meeting.
iii. INTRQ assertion, negation, release, pull-up (e01119r0) [Barras]
Larry Barras requested that this item be moved to ATA/ATAPI-7 section of the
agenda. This item will be moved to that section in the agenda for the next
meeting.
iv. Proposal for a General Purpose Feature Set (e00138r4) [Puri]
Sumit reviewed the revision of his proposal that included all of the
elements requested by the committee at the last meeting. Minor editorial
changes were added during the review. The editor agreed to include the
content of the proposal including the editorial changes into the next draft
of ATA/ATAPI-6.
v. Review of the draft standard
The editor reviewed the change bars in the document that reflected
differences between the current and previous revisions of the draft
standard. During the review several modifications and corrections were
recommended which the editor agreed to include in the next revision of the
draft standard. Change bars will identify these changes.
The editor will make a second revision that accepts all of the change bars.
This version will be used for the "line-by-line" review of the document at
the working group meeting in July.
vi. Schedule Review
The schedule for the project was reviewed and no changes were recommended.
Schedule Item Original Prior Current
Project proposal Oct-99 Oct-99 Oct-99
Initial draft Jun-00 Jun-00 Jun-00
Proposal cut-off Aug-00 Aug-00 Aug-00
Stabilized draft Feb-01 Feb-01 Apr-01
Letter ballot Apr-01 Jun-01 Aug-01
Forward to NCITS Jun-01 Aug-01 Oct-01
4) EDD - 2 project 1484-D (d1484r0) [Stevens]
Curtis Stevens said that the first revision of this draft standard was made
from the last draft of the EDD standard (d1386r5).
i. EDD raid option ROM proposal (e01125r0) [Stevens]
Curtis provided an overview of the proposal. This proposal was constructed
by Adaptec, and is intended to add the BIOS requirements for RAIDs.
Curtis said that he would like to include the content of this proposal into
the EDD-2 draft. To this end Curtis requested that the interested parties
review this proposal so that it could be discussed in detail at the next
meeting.
ii. Packet sending services for EDD (e00143r1) [Stevens]
Curtis said that this proposal is to allow users to use applications to
extract device calls from the BIOS functions so that they could be used for
various functions (like SMART functions during manufacturing operations).
Curtis said that he felt that this could be used for ATAPI, SCSI, 1394, and
USB.
Curtis reviewed the proposal in detail. He said that he would like to
include the content of this proposal into the EDD-2 draft. To this end
Curtis requested that the interested parties review this proposal so that it
could be discussed in detail at the next meeting.
iii. Draft review (d1484r0) [Stevens]
Curtis said that he thought there was no reason to perform a review of the
first draft in that its content was that of the approved standard. The
first review of the new draft standard will be conducted on the next
revision of the draft which will include new proposals or revisions that
have been accepted.
5) ATA/ATAPI Host Adapters project 1510-D
i. Draft review (d1510r0) [Goodfellow]
There was no document to review at this meeting, but Tony Goodfellow
requested that this item be kept on the agenda.
6) Proposal for command integrity checking (e00160r0) [McLean]
Pete McLean said that he had nothing new on this proposal but wished to
leave it on the agenda for now.
7) Consolidated ATAPI PACKET command set (e00150r0) [Goodfellow]
There was no document to review at this meeting, but Tony Goodfellow
requested that this item be kept on the agenda.
8) Extended cable lengths (e00151r1) [Goodfellow]
Don Doan discussed this proposal. This proposal provides a method for using
a 27-inch, 80-conductor cable by using an 80-pin header at the host where
the even pins are connected to ground.
There was some concern that the restrictions for hosts and devices need to
be expanded because the test data presented was exclusively for new models
of hard disk drives only. It was agreed that all would take this back to
their analog experts and provide feedback so that this can be discussed at
the next meeting.
9) Larger sector size ( ) [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove reported that he had spoken with Ed G., of IBM, who is leading
the effort under the aegis of IDEMA to investigate larger physical sector
sizes. Ed told Dan that they had determined that increasing sector sizes
could allow for more efficient use of a storage device's media by decreasing
the ratio of ECC bits to data.
Dan agreed to resurrect a proposal originally from Hale Landis (d99118r0) to
provide a mechanism for a device to communicate to a host the optimum
logical block sizes for transfers.
10) Errata for ATA/ATAPI-5 (e01122r0) [McLean]
Pete McLean reviewed his proposal. This proposal is comprised of
resolutions to all issues that have been identified with ATA/ATAPI-5 to
date. Minor editorial corrections to the proposal were recommended by the
working group. Pete agreed to turn a revision of his proposal.
Mark Evans moved and Curtis Stevens seconded that e01122r1 (revision 0 of
the proposal including the minor editorial corrections) be forwarded to
NCITS for further processing. The Chair conducted a roll call vote. The
motion carried 13:0:1:10.
Roll Call Vote
Motion: That a proposal for an Errata including resolutions to all
issues that have been identified with ATA/ATAPI-5, e01122r1 (revision 0 of
the proposal including the minor editorial corrections from the working
group), be forwarded to NCITS for further processing.
Yes: 13
No: 0
Abstain: 1
Not Present: 10
Company Voter Yes No Abstain Not Present
Absolute Software Phil Gardner x
Adaptec Ron Roberts x
Apple Larry Barras x
CMD Brian Dixon x
Dell x
Electronic Frontier x
Fujitsu x
Hitachi Naoto Kawakubo x
IBM Dan Colegrove x
Iomega Tim Bradshaw x
Linux ATA Dev Andre Hedrick x
LSI Logic x
Marvell x
Maxtor Mark Evans x
Microsoft x
Pacific Digital x
Phoenix Curtis Stevens x
QLogic Greg Elkins x
Sandisk Bob Chang x
Seagate Marc Noblitt x
ST Microeletronics x
Toshiba Tasuku Kasebayashi x
Western Digital x
Xetron x
24 members 13 0 1 10
11) ATA/ATAPI-7 project
i. Project proposal (e01116r0) [McLean]
Pete McLean reported that NCITS had responded to him that we could split the
document if we wanted, even calling it one project but publishing two
volumes. There was much discussion about how this might be done. After
input as to the goals for the project Pete agreed to make a revision of the
proposal including the input from the working group.
12) T13 Reflector, FTP, and Web Site Setup
The general feeling in the meeting was that those in attendance were happy
with the FTP and Web sites, though there were some comments about minor
formatting issues that Dan Colegrove said he would resolve.
Curtis Stevens reported that there was still an issue with him implementing
the reflector at Phoenix because there is an ongoing conflict with WD's
provider. Curtis said that we could get around this issue by starting a new
reflector using the name [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
In addition, Hale Landis has agreed to continue to host and maintain a
reflector for some period of time after all of the issues with a new
reflector are resolved.
13) Open issues list
There are no open issues.
12. New Business
1) FLUSH CACHE command modification proposal (e01126r0) [Noblitt]
Marc Noblitt made a proposal that the FLUSH CACHE command report any write
cache error that have occurred since the previous FLUSH CACHE command. The
recommendation was that Marc come back with a written proposal to add a DWE
(deferred error) bit in bit 4 of the Status register (as is used for the
streaming commands) for the FLUSH CACHE EXTENDED command.
2) Correction to SET MAX ADDRESS command
Tony Goodfellow pointed out that, though the value 00h in the Features
register had been made obsolete for this command, the Command code clause
for this command required the host to place this value in the Features
register. The editor of the draft standard agreed to make the correction of
removing this text and including text to point to the sub clause that
specifies the requirement of issuing a READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS immediately
before a SET MAX ADDRESS command.
3) Queuing enhancements
Tony Goodfellow said that he would like to have enhancements to Queuing that
would allow the interspersing of non-queued commands with queued commands.
He was assigned document e01128r0, Queuing enhancements for constructing a
proposal.
13. Liaison Reports
1) T10
The latest T10 liaison report from John Lohmeyer has been posted as
e01123r0.
2) SFF
Dan Colegrove reported on the activities at the last SFF working group
meeting. Dan reported that there were two new small form factors being
discussed. The group discussed the possibility of adding all of the ATA
form factors from SFF and EIA into ATA/ATAPI-7. Dan said that he would
discuss the feasibility of doing this with the SFF and EIA folks and bring
their responses into the next meeting.
3) IDEMA
There was no report as there had been no relevant working group meetings
since the last T13 meeting (other that the item regarding larger physical
sector sizes covered in item 7.9).
14. Call for Patents
The Chairman explained the patent policy. A document is available from
ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and Coordination of American National
Standards", at no charge. This document is also on the WWW at
ftp://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11 contains the ANSI
patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI and can be
contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 212-642-4954.
The Chairman then called for patents and/or patent applications that may be
necessary to comply with the requirements in T13 standards, draft standards,
technical reports, or draft technical reports.
There were no responses to the call for patents.
1) Convolve
The Chairman reported that NCITS counsel sent a letter to Convolve on
February 20, 2001 requesting them to notify NCITS if they believed they had
intellectual property claims with regard to ATA/ATAPI-6 and, if so,
requesting that Convolve agree to the ANSI patent policy. No response has
been received from Convolve at this time.
There was discussion that all of the elements of the Automatic Acoustic
Management feature set may have to be removed from the ATA/ATAPI-6 draft
standard before submission for letter ballot if this issue is not resolved.
Curtis Stevens moved and Ron Roberts seconded that all of the AAM elements
shall be removed from the next revision of the ATA/ATAPI-6 draft standard.
During discussion, Dan Colegrove said he thought we should wait until
someone said specifically that they had an issue with implementing these
elements because of legal entanglements. Curtis responded that at least one
person had said they would have an issue, so these elements should be
removed so that we could stay on the current schedule for A/A-6. Tony
Goodfellow said that this section should be removed to prevent folks that
did not know of the issue from implementing the feature and getting into
legal jeopardy without knowing it.
The motion failed 8:0:7 (fewer than 50% of the membership voted for this
motion).
Marc Noblitt and Pete McLean said that they would go back to their
respective companies and determine their current legal status and encouraged
all others to do so as well.
15. Review of Action Items
1. The Chair took an action to forward e01122r1, Errata for
A/ATAPI-5, to NCITS for further processing.
2. The Chair recommended that all members should check with
their respective legal departments about any issues that they would have
regarding Automatic Acoustic Management relative to ATA/ATAPI-6.
16. Meeting Schedule
1) Authorization of ad hoc working groups
A working group meeting for a "line-by-line" editorial review of ATA/ATAPI-6
was authorized at the previous meeting for July 24th through 26th in Irvine,
CA, hosted by Curtis Stevens at Phoenix. Start time on the first day
(Tuesday) will be 10:00 AM.
2) Long term meeting schedule
The meeting dates, locations, hosts, and contacts were reviewed for CY2003
(included below). The following is the proposed schedule through CY2003.
Requests for hosts will be discussed, and the group will vote on approval of
the CY2003 meeting dates at the next T13 meeting in August.
CY 2001 Dates Location Host Contact
August 21-23, 2001 Longmont, CO Maxtor Pete McLean
October 23-25, 2001 Kauai, HI Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow
December 11-13, 2001 Irvine, CA Western Digital Darrin Bulik
CY 2002 Dates Location Host Contact
February 19-21, 2002 Placerville, CA Adaptec Ron Roberts
April 23-25, 2002 Longmont, CO Seagate Marc Noblitt
June 25-27, 2002 Irvine, CA Phoenix Curtis Stevens
August 20-22, 2002 Redmond, WA Microsoft TBD
October 22-24, 2002 Maui, HI Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow
December 16-18, 2002 Irvine, CA Western Digital Darrin Bulik
CY 2003 Dates Location Host Contact
February 18-20, 2003
April 22-24, 2003
June 24-26, 2003
August 19-21, 2003
October 21-23, 2003
December 16-18, 2003
Note: 3) Meetings are scheduled for three days only. 4) Due to the
change in the Dell membership, the April, 2002 meeting has been changed from
Dell hosting in Austin to Marc Noblitt of Seagate hosting this meeting in
Longmont, CO. 5) If Microsoft does not wish to host the meeting in
August, 2002, Pete McLean of Maxtor has volunteered to host this meeting in
Longmont, CO.
As noted above the next plenary meeting of T13 is August 21st through 23rd
in Longmont, Colorado hosted by Pete McLean of Maxtor Corporation. A host
meeting notice will be sent out on the reflector and will be added to the
web site.
17. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned by the Chairman, Pete McLean, upon completion of all
the agenda items at 11:50 A.M. on Wednesday, June 20, 2001.
[Enclosure 1 - Membership]
Name Company Email Tel
Phil Gardner Absolute Softwa phil@ absolute.com 604 730-9851
Rob Schram Absolute Softwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651 260-0919
Richard Kalish Acer Labs [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 467-7458
Ron Roberts Adaptec [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 957-5640
Larry Barras Apple Computer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 974-3220
Matt Rooke CacheVision [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 952-4634
Leroy Fong Circuit Assembl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben Chang Cirrus Logic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510 226-2394
Raymond Liu CMD
Bob Rudy CMD
Brian Dixon CMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 598-4370
Jeff Wolford Compaq Computer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 713 514-9465
Akil Houston Compaq Computer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 281 518-6376
Ken Bush Compaq Computer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 713 514-5553
Hale Landis Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303 548-0567
Eric Gorham Consultant
Ricardo Dominguez Dell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512 728-8996
Phil Turner DERA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Gilmore Electronic Fron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415 221-6524
John Marttila Electronic Fron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415 436-9333
Randy Buchter Foxconn
Sumit Puri Fujitsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 829-5252
Robert Liu Fujitsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 894-3790
Mike Jaskowiak Gateway
Hiroaki Inoue Hitachi
Shigehiro Mishimagi Hitachi
Seiichi Domyo Hitachi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hitoshi Ogawa Hitachi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Naoto Kawakubo Hitachi America [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 941-7049
"Andrew" Vuong Hitachi America [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 941-7047
Paul Anderson IBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970 593-0392
Jeff Lotspiech IBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 927-1851
David Craft IBM
Bob Raicer IBM
Dan Colegrove IBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 702 614-6119
Michael Eschmann Intel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 816 524-7418
Darrell Redford Iomega [EMAIL PROTECTED] 801 778-4432
Tim Bradshaw Iomega [EMAIL PROTECTED] 801 332-4262
Andre Hedrick Linux ATA Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 925 689-0269
Tim Thompson LSI Logic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970 206-5753
Renee Depew LSI Logic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970 225-4927
Chris Adams Marvell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303 678-5248
Kanting Tsai Marvell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Justin Heindel Marvell
Mark Evans Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 894-5310
Faheem Dani Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kent Pryor Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 894-4510
Eric Kvamme Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 894-6478
LeRoy Leach Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303 678-2828
Charley Riegger Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 432-4571
Pete McLean Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303 678-2149
Robert Griswold Microsoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] 425 936-2630
Henry Gabryjelski Microsoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] 425 882-8080
Emily Hill Microsoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] 425 705-9595
Nita Pan Microsoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] 425 705-0877
Krishnan Varadarajan Microsoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] 425 703-8126
Mary Morgan Morgan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] 714 240-7508
Robbie Shergill National Semi
Maryann Karinch NCITS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 650 726-7020
Lam Dang Oak Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 523-6643
Daniel Salmonsen Oak Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 523-6550
Jim Hatfield Overland Data jhatfield@ overlanddata.com 303 776-2497
Don Doan Pacific Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 252-1111
Tony Goodfellow Pacific Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 252-1111
Richard Harcourt Pacific Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 252-1111
Han Zou Panasonic
Terence Nelson Panasonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 908 464-1652
Rudolf Vitti Panasonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 201 348-7064
Niek Lambert Philips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bil McFerrin Philips [EMAIL PROTECTED] 720 320-0790
Bill McFerrin Philips [EMAIL PROTECTED] 720 320-0790
Jeroen Heuvelman Philips
Curtis Stevens Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 790-2121
Keiji Katata Pioneer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Peissner PowerQuest
Robert Raymond PowerQuest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy Lawrence PowerQuest
Huy Nguyen Qlogic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 389-6000
Skip Jones Qlogic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 389-6000
Greg Elkins Qlogic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 389-6283
Ken Bovatsek Samsung [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 544-5769
Tri Van Samsung
Litko Chan Samsung [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 544-5745
Juhani Rissanen Samsung [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 544-5894
Bob Chang Sandisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 542-0431
Marc Noblitt Seagate [EMAIL PROTECTED] 720 684-1333
Gary Glass Seagate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lynn McQueen Seagate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce Perens SftwrInThePubli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5105261165
Masataka Ogawa Sony [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 955-5091
Kosuke Nakai Sony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emmanuel Coudray ST Micro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 347-4774
George Tun Standard Micro
Aaron Wilson STMicroelectron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303 381-3585
Wen Lin STMicroelectron
Ming Louie STMicroelectron
Nicholas Phillips STMicroeletroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303
381-3559
Janet Wu Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510 574-9601
Fay Chong Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510 574-9009
David Dickson Texas Instrumen
Steve Bassett Texas Instrumen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303 774-3455
Yogi Schaffner Texas Instrumen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303 651-5920
David Platt Tivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 519-9182
Tasuku Kasebayashi Toshiba [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 461-3886
Yoshihde Katsuse Toshiba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patrick Ohara Toshiba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ron Mathews Unisys [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 380-5077
Darrin Bulik Western Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 672-7442
Martin McSweeney Western Digital
Tom Hanan Western Digital 949 932-7472
Jonathan Hanmann Western Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949 932-5189
George Hefner Western Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joe M. Jackson Xetron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513 881-3331
[Enclosure 2 - Document directory]
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