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It's my understanding that there are very few finds of Celtic textiles of
any kind, not just tablet weaving.  I doubt that tablet weaving developed
independently in different place.  I suspect it's just that we cannot trace
the path with so little evidence.

--charlotte mayhew



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Subject: Did the Celts tablet weaving ?


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>  A few days ago I asked for Celtic tablet weaves other than the finds of
>  the Celtic chieftain at the Hochdorf burial. I only got very few
>  responds on that topic (for which I am very thankful even though they
>  could not help me to find other evidence on Celtic tablet weaving) and
>  after bulking my NESAT documentation and sketching the ways of tablet
>  weaving through the bronze and iron age cultures of Northern/Middle
>  Europe I am quite confused.
>
>  In the finds of the Celtic Chieftain of Hochdorf-Eberdingen
>  (Hallstattzeit) very sophisticated tablet woven bands and borders were
>  found. Nevertheless there is not other evidence for tablet weaving
>  rather than Hohmichele (from which I up to now have no detailed
>  information) of the "Hallstattzeit", the "Lathenezeit" or even later.
>  The next early finds documented I know are of Lonne Hede (1st century
>  AD), Daetgen, Thorsberg, Damendorf and Vehnemoor (about 2.-3. century
>  AD). But all these tablet woven borders are - regarding the Hochdorf
>  finds - very simple: Striped tablet woven borders for different cloth,
>  mainly pomp cloaks.
>
>  From my opinion the result is that if all the evidence of the finds is
>  right, tablet weaving was "developed" independently in the bronze and
>  iron age cultures of Northern Europe and the Celtic high culture of
>  Hallstatt/Lathene. Otherwise the knowledge and experience tablet weavers
>  gained regarding the Hochdorf finds must have had influenc on tablet
>  weaving in Northern Europe. Over 600 years without any "development" on
>  technqiues and possiblities I cannot imagine.
>
>  The other reason which I dare not believe is that excavation of the
>  burial in Hochdorf was a substantial archeological mistake as the buial
>  was dated far too early.
>
>  But some questions are still in my mind: Why is there only one
>  (regarding Hohmichele maybe two) find of skillful tablet weaving of the
>  Celtic bronze age (of the Hallstattzeit)? Why are there no earlier finds
>  of simpler tablet woven pieces? Why are there no similar finds of the
>  Hallstatt era or later eras (Lathene)? Why are there even no other
>  Celtic finds after migration of Celtic tribes over Western and Eastern
>  Europe?
>
>  Maybe I am only missing the necessary archeological information or maybe
>  there isn't the information on that topic available up to now. I am not
>  an archeologist (only a stupid computer scientist interested in tablet
>  weaving :-) but is there anybody out there (On the lists with more
>  detailed information and with whom I can discuss these questions?)?
>
>  Have a nice night (time to go to bed in Germany right now),
>  Guido
>  Send private reply to Guido Gehlhaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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