Agreed, social_facility as it is defined focuses on services and shops don't fit.
I prefer your Dec 4 post where you mentioned charity=shop, or some variation of a standalone charity key. There are some interesting comments in the discussion page of last year's charity proposal by Lulu-Ann: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/charity <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/charity>I'd rather try to resurrect the charity proposal as I feel like there are many other issues/attributes under the surface that would benefit from a standalone charity key. So an oxfam bookshop would have these tags: shop=books charity=yes or alternatively shop=books charity=shop The charity tag could follow the same model used by social_facility where the value of the tag refers to another key, such as in *social_facility* =healthcare. Sean On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:19, Laurence Penney <[email protected]> wrote: > The whole point of the social_facility, as described on the wiki, is > clearly around helping people at that place. Charity shops such as Oxfam and > British Heart Foundation - even if they have broad aims of "social justice" > - just don't fit into this at all. And RSPCA shops? They explicitly have > nothing to do with helping people, yet seem to call for very similar tagging > as the other kinds of charity shop. > > I accept that my suggestion about suppliers is more appealing to the > taxonomist than for the average user, so... how about this for an Oxfam > bookshop? > > shop=books > shop:charity=yes > > - or for an RSPCA general second hand shop: > > shop=second_hand > shop:charity=yes > > - L > > On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:26, Sean Horgan wrote: > > > Good discussion. > > > > I'm not sure I follow you WRT non-commercial/state run. Social facility > doesn't imply non-commercial, there are plenty of private organizations that > deliver social services. In the case of a social facility run by the state, > I would consider this an act of charity: the giving of help to those in > need. In this case, the state is a proxy through which the residents > provide the services/goods. > > > > I definitely agree that social_facility doesn't exactly roll off the > tongue, especially in the context of charity. There is little likelihood > that an average user would type "social facility" into a search box when > looking for a charity. As much as I'd like to consolidate related entities > into the same tagging scheme, I know that it can't be forced. > > > > Is there a way to mark tags as equivalent, e.g. social_facility=shop <=> > charity=shop, or more broadly social_facility <=> charity? > > > > I like your thinking on supplier=donation but I think it falls into same > bucket of social_facility=shop: nice for the taxonomy but not the average > user. I prefer a simple donation=yes approach. > > > > Sean > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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