I think that adding a hazard=xyz tag is a good suggestion.  A bike-route 
renderer could then allow someone considering a ride to decide which hazards 
they were willing to accept, and which to avoid, and adjust the suggested route 
accordingly.

-------Original Email-------
Subject :Re: [Tagging] Subjective Tags was: designated bike lane
>From  :mailto:[email protected]
Date  :Sat Jan 01 12:41:30 America/Chicago 2011


On 01/01/2011 18:09, Richard Welty wrote:
> On 1/1/11 12:40 PM, Anthony wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Richard 
>> Welty<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> On 1/1/11 11:52 AM, Anthony wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Greg Troxel<[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>>> By trying to objectively tag the reality (not entirely possible of
>>>>> course), we also avoid all the debates about what is and isn't 
>>>>> safe in
>>>>> general, and where the dividing line is.
>>>> In this case I'm not even sure it's physically possible for a bicycle
>>>> to fit in the supposed bicycle lane, let alone safe.
>>> the debate over whether we should include judgmental informantion
>>> in tags (especially for bike lanes) has been going on for a while.
>>> maybe we need a tag which is understood to sometimes be judgmental.
>> What do you mean by "judgmental"?
> there have been arguments about whether safety considerations
> should factor into bike lane tagging, with some taking the posture
> that only physical and legal attributes should be mapped, and others
> wanting to include their judgment about whether a particular lane
> or path is "safe" for some definition of safe.

The main problem with subjective data was that people wanted to use the 
existing tags designed to describe the legality to describe "difficulty" 
(ability) of a way.

As long as different tags are used (as you describe) I see no problem 
with providing warnings

Cheers
Dave F.

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