On 8/9/2011 10:44 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
Relations make the map hard to work with.

Agree - one of the barriers to entry by new mappers is the complexity. We need to do everything possible to keep it simple and usable. And not just by creating ever-more-complex models and updating all the editors to keep pace. 3rd party companies create fancy tools and see that it's a good idea to have it inter-operate with OSM data, until it's time to dive into relations:

http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13377

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