Am 15.04.2012 16:23, schrieb Eckhart Wörner:
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 15:42:29 schrieb fly:
I still do not get one major point which was totally left out on the first
scheme. What actually belongs to a "point" and how are they tagged.
Especially
on big crossings and roundabouts I always was confused (e.g. it might be
possible that a part of this point is blocked but how do I know which one
and
you might be able to use  the first/last exit/entrance of a junction but not
the
rest. )
Indeed, this is what I was worried about as well.
Here's a proposed (partial) fix, which starts from the original proposal.

Let's assume that 123, 456 and 789 are connected LCD which describe a road.
Further assume that at 456 there's a big intersection.
Then:
- All ways between 123 and 456 are marked tmc=DE:123+456, and all ways between
456 and 789 are marked tmc=DE:456+789.
- All ways on the intersection 456 leading from 123 to 789 are then marked
tmc=DE:456+.

This has several advantages:
- A traffic jam between 123 and 456 will not block the intersection 456 anymore.
- Exits are defined as follows:  an exit at 456 in positive direction starts at
a way that is tagged either tmc=DE:456+ or tmc=DE:123+456 ("from"), uses a
node that is part of a way tagged either tmc=DE:456+ or tmc=DE:456+789 ("via")
and ends at a way that is tagged neither tmc=DE:456+ nor tmc=DE:456+789, nor
tmc=DE:123+456 ("to"). An exit is therefore a maneuver. This may sound a bit
technical at first, but none of this is exposed to the tagging, and the idea of
an exit is probably quite intuitive.
- Likewise, entries are defined.
- Automatic consistency checking is still possible, as there are no holes.

There is at least one issue that still has to be addressed: this tagging does
not imply an ordering of the exits / entries; it is not clear what the first,
second… exit would be.

Eckhart Wörner

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Hello,
thank you far all your contributions so far, and here's just a preliminary response. It was my idea to mail an answer to all open technical questions as soon as I can come with a reasonable result in all depth, and some topics are still discussed with our TMC team. So I apologize for not resonding earlier, but please allow another day.

Best regards,

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