Here's an example of the same type of sign in Australia http://goo.gl/maps/Pao1
Stephen On 2 June 2012 05:20, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 19:02 +0200, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote: > > Am 01.06.2012 um 15:01 schrieb Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>: > > > > > On 01/06/2012 14:19, Jason Cunningham wrote: > > > > On 1 June 2012 08:09, Martin Vonwald <imagic....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > But we have to make sure, that this values are only > > > > applied if real > > > > indications (e.g. signposts) are present and not e.g. if > > > > one just > > > > thinks that some vehicle can not drive there. > > > > > > > > The example given is within the UK. Within the UK signs or > > > > signposts haver no 'status' unless they're listed within official > > > > documents and linked to legislation. I am confident this > > > > "unsuitable for HGVs" sign has no legislative status. It's > > > > existence may be due to local residents asking their local > > > > politician to find a way to 'stop' HGV's following satnavs down > > > > this road because the noise reduces they're enjoyment of their > > > > evening cocktails (Very unlikely, but a possibility). Therefore > > > > it's more than possible that an 'unsuitable status sign' may refer > > > > to a road that is very suitable. People or business will place > > > > signs adjacent to UK roads in rural areas which attempt to alter > > > > the actions of drivers, and we should not map these. > > > > > > > > > > > And if these signs are placed by the highway authority? I think > > > these most definitely do have a place in OSM. It's then up to the > > > data consumers whether they attach any value to them. By making the > > > data available, we are enabling e.g. HGV routing programs to take > > > these hints into account. Without these hints, trucks may be > > > directed down "unsuitable" routes. The political process leading to > > > their erection is not important - only their existence. Political > > > pressure has a large influence on speed limits as well. > > > > > > You are both correct in my opinion. As I wrote earlier this doesn't > > "feel" like something that belongs into an access tag to me especially > > as you are still allowed to use that specific way. But if those signs > > have some official character they should have a place in OSM. What do > > you think about using some other key for this? > > > The blue 'Unsuitable for HGVS' and 'Unsuitable for Motors' signs are > placed by the highway authority, i.e. local councils, which maintain all > UK roads except for Trunk roads and Motorways. > > They do not prohibit vehicles from using the roads, and certainly with > the 'Unsuitable for Motors' usability will depend on all sorts of > things, such as type of vehicle, ground clearance, skill of the driver, > the weather and recent weather. A 4x4 will usually be ok, and a low > ground clearance Ferrari will struggle with many roads a normal car will > clear easily. But I can think of at least one that is probably there so > noisy cars don't spoil the summer cocktails as I can see nothing along > that (single track road) that makes it unsuitable or in any way > difficult, or any more difficult than any of the others in this area. > > Phil > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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