Has this discussion died now and awaits re-revival in another two,
three years? ;-)

Martin

2012/6/15 Eckhart Wörner <[email protected]>:
> Hi everybody,
>
> let me try to summarize some parts of the discussion up to now. Hopefully 
> this won't become too biased:
> * most people agreed that the syntax of the competing Access Restrictions 1.5 
> proposal is quite complicated
> * some people argued that it is important to separate syntax for vehicles 
> (hgv, bicycle, …) and other conditions, however, other people pointed out 
> that hgv could as well represent the condition "in a hgv" and the distinction 
> between vehicles and other conditions is arbitrary.
> * most people agreed that every proposal must be complete, i.e. every boolean 
> formula of conditions can be expressed in it
> * most people agreed that proposal should make the common case easily 
> taggable for humans, however, some people said that editor support is 
> required anyway and therefore the readability for humans does not really 
> matter
> * some people argued that putting conditions into keys is a bad idea because 
> it allows for an unlimited set of keys, however, other people argued that 
> putting conditions into values is a bad idea because it pollutes the values 
> and might lead to ambiguities, since a value could be anything, including an 
> identifier
> * some people argued that conditions syntax should look similar to human 
> language, however, other people argued that this would trick mappers into 
> thinking that human language can be used without paying attention to syntax, 
> and others pointed out that that a parser that has to be liberal about what 
> he accepts cannot spot errors anymore
> * some people argued that any proposal should take existing tagging into 
> account
> * most people argued that tagging should be human-readable
> * some people argued that the syntax has to be similar to existing 
> programming languages, however, other people argued that this would just make 
> the syntax more error-prone
> My favorite:
> * a lot of people agreed that the Extended Proposals is "... already 
> used...intuitive and simple to use...complete...consise...extensible"
>
> I would also like to ask people not to blindly start new proposals, because 
> otherwise we'll inevitably end up with hundreds of proposals and no 
> conclusion at all.
>
> Eckhart
>
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