On 2013-01-25 03:15, doug brown wrote :
Thanks again André. I am really impressed with the amount of work you have done on my problem and greatly appreciate your efforts. I hope to be able to find some time to work on this Sunday afternoon. I will let you know how it goes.
I was also impressed by the patience you needed to encode all that data and the vandalism you have been victim of. And as I developed anti vandalism skill when I myself am the victim... This said, I felt stupid when I realized that patching the .osm file manually with a much neater result was done in minutes compared to well over one hour with the merge method leaving much work to do. I'm glad you will use the new file. I suppose that the JOSM validation errors will disappear after moving the bundled nodes back to place and that you will not have too much trouble solving conflicts when updating OSM. I hope that you and MagWhiz will be useful to JOSM by explaining how the data got into that state.

Conclusion, use JOSM and support those who support it.

I'm eagerly waiting to see the shrimps back home :-)

Cheers,

André.



Cheers,
doug brown

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:43:36 +0100
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes


Updated.

On 2013-01-22 20:33, doug brown wrote :

    Thanks André.  I got the data and have tested it in JOSM.  I have
    been able to delete some of the ways that go off into infinity,
    but it is going to take some time.  At least this is a way forward.

I finally decided I should have a look at what is wrong in the Revert.
I made manual corrections and the resulting .osm file is here. <http://www.papou.byethost9.com/tmp/shrimp_pond_dike_OK.osm> All the ways going to nodes "at infinity" now converge to some real dummy point. All you have to do is to repeatedly drag that node to the correct positions (they split).
That will untangle the bundle.

Remember you can still select as many set of data you want to process separately, /*Edit>merge selection*/ to a new layer, update OSM from that new layer and delete the selection (in layer of this file) to see what you've done and what remains. Be extra sure not to update from the layer where you delete that way, though.
JOSM would delete your work from the server.
Carefully check what each request shows it's going to do.

So, about 20 nodes were like this.
<node id='1579548851' action='modify' timestamp='2012-10-20T05:16:27Z' uid='656969' user='MagWhiz' visible='false' version='2' changeset='13563919' />
that is, without coordinates.  I set that dummy one.
That was causing the non-crashing program faults when JOSM processed those infinity nodes.
For example, deleting or trying to merge the way they're in.

On 2013-01-24 16:33, fly wrote :

    Would you please report these bugs at JOSM trac. Otherwise they will 
probably
    not be fixed soon.

Best regards.

Cheers,

André.


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    Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:17:02 +0100
    From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    CC: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes

    On 2013-01-22 13:37, doug brown wrote :

        Thanks all for the feedback you have provided on the tags for
        the shrimp pond dikes.  I hope to be able to implement many of
        these changes soon, but I have not been successful in using
        the JOSM Reverter plugin.  The OSM Wiki states:

        "After installing the plugin and restarting JOSM, you should
        find a new menu item History -> Revert changeset."

        I have updated to the latest JOSM version (version 5608) and
        downloaded the plugin and restarted JOSM multiple times, but
        no History menu item appears.  Subsequent attempts to download
        the reverter plugin yield a message that all plugins are up to
        date.

        I'm out of ideas on how to proceed.  Does anybody have any advice?

    I have replayed the first part of Revert and stored the result
    here <http://www.papou.byethost9.com/tmp/shrimp_pond_dike.osm>.
    The file was saved after replying yes to "ignore 23 conflicts?".
    I wanted to know if an attempt to update would raise the same
    conflicts.
    It raised a JOSM crash.
    I tried to delete the runaway ways and it crashed again
    intermittently.
    It finally crashed when I reloaded the new file I was saving
    little by little.

    My best advice is to create a new JOSM layer, /*Edit>merge
    selection*/ of as many pieces of data as you can and update OSM
    from that new layer.

    It's doable, take heart.
    Is JOSM usual to you?

    That vandal should be sent to OSM jail for a few weeks.

    Cheers,

    André.



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