Am 26.06.2013 18:56, schrieb Philip Barnes: > On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 21:02 +0200, fly wrote: >> On 25.06.2013 20:43, martinq wrote: >>>>> There is no (common) restriction that limits the actual weight of >>>>> truck+trailer, thus it makes no sense to define maxweight as limit for >>>>> the complete train. >>>> ... >>>> this one is for gross weight of vehicles _including_ trailers: >>>> http://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_253.svg >>> >>> Yes, see second part of my posting you responded to. >>> >>> But the example does not support your original idea of defining >>> maxweight (=*actual weight* restriction) for complete trains instead of >>> vehicles. It only supports it for gross_weight, but this was already >>> pointed out by me. >>> >>> >>> To focus back on the original topic: >>> >>> What is your conclusion regarding the proposal and the tagging of these >>> restrictions? >>> >>> The crucial part is to keep tagging simple. We cannot expect that >>> everyone knows the subtle legal differences (I didn't know them until I >>> have done my own investigation). A trade-off between pure road-sign >>> tagging (which makes interpretation difficult) and the meaning (which is >>> complex due to vehicle, trailers, weight types, etc) is required. >> >> At least in Europe every person with a driving licence should know about >> gross_weight as this is one of the important number regarding your licence. >> > I doubt many would have a clue, it is something that never occurred to > me when I was learning to drive. The fact that you can drive either a > 3.5t or 7.5t truck on you license, depending on when you passed your > test, is totally irrelevant to most people.
In fact in Germany with a normal "car" licence before the year 200? it is 7.5t + 4.5t = 12t. Hope people know their driving experience, though as you did not have to drive any truck nor with trailer to get that licence > > 99% will never have any reason to think about it. I wrote "should know". Now they get reminded about it (adult education ?) I do not see any solution but to stick to the rules and use gross_weight but please convince me. Maybe we will get some help from the road_sign plugin for josm which can be localized. cu fly _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
